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Old 11-01-2008, 04:03 PM   #21
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Well, I have a long way to go, only 24, but I definitely don't enjoy high amounts of stress. I actually do enjoy moderate amounts of stress, it is just bad when it starts affecting my health. I am really look forward to when I won't be a working and going to school, I am finding that during periods I am working/doing schoolwork for over 60/hours a week (this can peak at over 100/hours a week), I feel pricks of pain occasionally from the high levels of blood pressure. In a couple extreme cases I have had marks show up on my face or body (this happened one time when I was working 40 hours/just found I had been admitted to a school I really wanted to get into/studying for a very difficult specialized test/ AND I had a big conference do go to that same day, by the end of the day I felt extremely nauseous).

I can tell that the others who I work with who are doing something similar to what I am doing now are also feeling the stress, my roommate took up smoking all of a sudden, drinks more and has to exercise regularly. Same with my co-workers, they exercise a lot to relieve their stress.

Luckily, I don't expect this situation to continue, I will be down to a 50/hour a week schedule after I graduate, and if I don't find that too bad, I can do a little bit of side work as well.

As to hating working, of course I do, I don't think many people like it. The work is fairly interesting, but all the related things I have to do certainly far outweigh the work being interesting. I just want to get it over and done with as quickly as possible, while at the same time avoiding toxic work conditions (if I were older, I don't think I could handle this transitional period I am going through).
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:28 PM   #22
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Well, I have a long way to go, only 24, but I definitely don't enjoy high amounts of stress. I actually do enjoy moderate amounts of stress, it is just bad when it starts affecting my health.
Don't let us old whiners put you off work

At your age I loved work and it had moderate amounts of stress which I thrived on. I turned down management jobs several times as I knew that was going to be a different situation altogether. I enjoyed being a team leader on projects but once I became a manager (at 32) then I got a whole lot of different stress and 20 years of dealing with employees with divorces, serious illnesses, alcoholism, nervous breakdowns, suicides (2) plus budgets, hiring, firing etc, then it just wore me down emotionally.

So just don't overdo things. Long work weeks for short periods are okay as long as it does not become habit forming or expected - keep control of your life, you only have one shot at it.
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Don't let us old whiners put you off work

At your age I loved work and it had moderate amounts of stress which I thrived on. I turned down management jobs several times as I knew that was going to be a different situation altogether. I enjoyed being a team leader on projects but once I became a manager (at 32) then I got a whole lot of different stress and 20 years of dealing with employees with divorces, serious illnesses, alcoholism, nervous breakdowns, suicides (2) plus budgets, hiring, firing etc, then it just wore me down emotionally.

So just don't overdo things. Long work weeks for short periods are okay as long as it does not become habit forming or expected - keep control of your life, you only have one shot at it.
Really! I'm with Alan on that one.

At 24 I was having a blast at work. However, that was 25 years ago - I haven't started wondering about the health effects of being burnt-out till just lately.

If I hated my work at 24 or found it detrimental to my health (not counting the ever-present risk of physical injury on the job) I'd have found different work.
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So just don't overdo things. Long work weeks for short periods are okay as long as it does not become habit forming or expected - keep control of your life, you only have one shot at it.
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Sooo - the way to teach people to become physicians and healers - is to be stupid and make them do long hours and get them sick first

I was always curious - why It seems like the dumbest idea on the planet - since they(the medical world) know what it leads to?

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I'm always amazed at what olks have to put themselves through in the medical profession.

It doesn't seem to be detrimental to longevity according to this article last year Why Accountants Live Longer

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Middle-class professionals such as doctors and accountants are outliving builders and cleaners by as much as eight years, according to official figures.

People from all social classes are living longer, data from the Office for National Statistics showed yesterday, but variations in the age at which people are dying indicate Government measures to reduce the gap between rich and poor have failed.


The study looked at people from five social classes in 1972-76 and 2002-05.

Skilled workers have had a greater increase in life expectancy at birth and at the age of 65 than those in manual occupations, the researchers found.

Men in professional occupations can expect to live to 80, almost eight years longer than those in unskilled jobs, whose life expectancy is 72.7.

Professional women have a life expectancy at birth of 85.1 years, compared with 78.1 for manual workers.
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Sooo - the way to teach people to become physicians and healers - is to be stupid and make them do long hours and get them sick first
It's a bit better now than in the 70s, but only because there are rules and limit that are enforced, sort of. Still, a bad culture in that regard.

Back then, it was almost an initiation rite. Of course the nights and weekends are necessary to some extent, but the fatigue was crushing.

A dark secret no one talks about is that house officers provide almost free or "slave labor." Staffing hospitals with full-fledged attendings costs much, much more.

It's one of the reasons that the smartest kids are going into dermatology, radiology, and other fields with better lifestyles. Used to be the hard core specialties that were the most competitive: surgery, internal medicine, and pediatrics.
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I have to say I enjoyed my job until the last few months before I retired and then I was just burned out . I felt it was not fair to my co-workers , Doctors and patients to continue so I retired . I was ready mentally and financially to call it quits . I was 59.
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Hmmm - one of the guys at the doughnut shop - is an erst while trucker who 'retires' every summer depending on what the grandkids are up to.

Now they are so hooked up gps. electronically and otherwise they make it hard to sneak around the driving time limits - even if they wanted to drive the long hours of 'the good old days.'

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