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10-11-2011, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bestwifeever
I'll be so happy to be covered by Medicare and SS that I won't care if it's six months getting here.
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Me too. In fact, I'd settle just for Medicare.
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Originally Posted by Bestwifeever
I'm sure your congressman will get right on that.
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And if he/she doesn't, there's still two senators that can.
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10-11-2011, 10:25 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Aren't all healthcare policies paid for in advance, along with life insurance and car insurance?
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10-11-2011, 10:29 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Easten Long Island
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Originally Posted by MichaelB
Absolutely shocking news.
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Would be more shocking if I was not accessed a penalty for not paying my estimated taxes on a timely basis.
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10-11-2011, 10:32 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: LaLa Land
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If this is the worst thing in life you have to deal with, well........
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10-11-2011, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by justplainbll
Would be more shocking if I was not accessed a penalty for not paying my estimated taxes on a timely basis.
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What does this have to do with SS and Medicare?
I think you are assessed a penalty for not paying sufficient estimated tax and charged interest for not being timely.
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10-11-2011, 10:41 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
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Looks like a move to Canada is in order. They're eager to have you and will treat you right!
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10-11-2011, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by l2ridehd
I am in the process of applying for SS and Medicare. Just got off the phone with them after completing the online application. The issue: SS checks are with held one month so you are delayed getting the check. However Medicare has to be paid one month in advance. So the first check you receive which is delayed one month after the SS start date will have two months of Medicare payments removed. So what you get is delayed a month, what you have to pay has to be paid a month in advance.
My congressman is getting a letter, what a rip off.
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Blame your parents.
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Social Security disability, survivor, and retirement benefits are paid in the month after they are due. The benefit payment day is determined by the beneficiaries' birth date.
Benefit payment dates for Social Security
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10-11-2011, 12:29 PM
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Location: PWC VA
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OK, I understand, no sympathy here. Guess I will just grin and accept it. Be a lemming and follow the crowd. Probably should worry more about getting paid at all then when I get paid. Better to get something from them then nothing.
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10-11-2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by l2ridehd
OK, I understand, no sympathy here. Guess I will just grin and accept it. Be a lemming and follow the crowd. Probably should worry more about getting paid at all then when I get paid. Better to get something from them then nothing.
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Better yet, next time try to be born in the first 10 days of the month.
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10-11-2011, 01:01 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
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I discovered this "next month is not really next month until another month has passed" game when I signed up for SS benefits in 2008. I did some calculations at the time and determined the genius who came up with the idea for the one month delayed start was saving SS a little more than $2B per year.
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Numbers is hard
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10-11-2011, 01:03 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Just tell them it sucks and you don't need no stinkin' money!
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10-11-2011, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelB
Better yet, next time try to be born in the first 10 days of the month.
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I was! And tomorrow is the second Wednesday!
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10-11-2011, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelB
What does this have to do with SS and Medicare?
I think you are assessed a penalty for not paying sufficient estimated tax and charged interest for not being timely.
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What's good for the goose should be good for the gander. SS, Medicare and the IRS are all part of the same beast. The IRS performs some collection services for SS. Timeliness seems to be a one way street.
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10-11-2011, 02:59 PM
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[QUOTE=packrat44;1120126]
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Originally Posted by justplainbll
Not only do you get paid for each month in the following month but the payment received in the month of your death (for the month you were alive) goes back to the SS admin.QUOTE]
Beat SS at their own game. Don't die.
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Now THAT is dastardly! Then SS really will crash. And I predict that Doctors will cease taking ALL Medicare patients...
Doctor to office staff: No Medicare patients! None! Don't even let them into the waiting room! They'll be dropping body parts and worn-out fluids all over our furniture and magazines!!!
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Two fools dancing on the hands of time
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10-11-2011, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERD50
Make a protest sign. Whine. Get emotional in front of a reporter. It's somewhat popular these days.
-ERD50
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+1
Waaa, Waaa!
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10-11-2011, 04:27 PM
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[QUOTE=Telly;1120248]
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Originally Posted by packrat44
Now THAT is dastardly! Then SS really will crash. And I predict that Doctors will cease taking ALL Medicare patients...
Doctor to office staff: No Medicare patients! None! Don't even let them into the waiting room! They'll be dropping body parts and worn-out fluids all over our furniture and magazines!!!
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Most doctors accept patients by appointment. They act like they're doing you a favor to fit you into their busy schedules and for medicare patients, if they have not opted out, usually limit their time spent per patient to around 5 minutes.
Perhaps you would not have such a cavalier attitude if
-you paid the medicare tax since its inception
-made FICA contributions for some 40 years
-deferred collection of SS retirement benefits until 53 years after first year of contribution.
-had to pay income tax on SS retirement benefits
-had to pay income based surcharges on medicare part B
-had to pay medicare part D surcharges even though you have an employer sponsored drug plan
-had to pay hefty income taxes while others get tax 'refunds' in excess of any income taxes they have paid.
Things change and not necessarily for the better for those who started out following the rules. Some call that progress.
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10-11-2011, 04:32 PM
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Bll, you are a real ray of sunshine...
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10-11-2011, 04:45 PM
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Perhaps because my deceased DDS buddy's nickname was sunshine.
He was one of those people who got an annual flu shot because it was 'free'.
Telling it like I've seen it is. My dad went to his MD regularly every 3 months. He had many of the symptoms of non-hodgkins lymphoma but was not diagnosed until he was stage 3. My mother died from a pulmonary embolism 3 days after an alpha-hotel radically increased her dosage of procrit (the tamoxifen didn't help either).
The longevity of my parents fell quite short of my grandparents despite the fact that my grandparents lived the bulk of their lives without most of the 'benefits' of our nanny government and my parents' lifestyle was similar to that of their parents.
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10-12-2011, 06:14 AM
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#39
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rescueme
Medicare starts the first of the month that you turn 65, regardless of the date of the month.
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So I was born at the end of the month, its like getting free health care for a month...I love this system!!
TJ
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10-12-2011, 06:39 AM
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In my area, an alarming number of DOs and MDs are giving up their private practices and migrating to salaried positions.
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