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Old 10-06-2011, 08:02 AM   #21
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Moving or changing jobs often helps but is much easier said than done. Late 40's, kids in local school, social network, etc. If changing jobs involves moving it means change for everyone in the family.

I always felt US companies were keenly aware of how few alternatives really exist for middle age employees, and exploit that by dumping the most stressful tasks and jobs on them, along with the message: do it or you’re gone. This is an inevitable consequence of a business culture where a few employees achieve a financial reward on a scale never seen before.
I believe this to be true as well.

I am fortunate to have been forced to become a contractor. My stress level (and blood pressure) is way down. I am not afraid of change or losing a job any more. I sleep better. I make more money (a welcome bonus, but secondary).

Contracting is not accepted very well in the US, but it is part of the culture in Great Britain, Canada and the outside world.

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Old 10-06-2011, 09:10 AM   #22
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Contracting is not accepted very well in the US, but it is part of the culture in Great Britain, Canada and the outside world.
Yeah, but the health insurance differences make it *much* easier to be a contractor elsewhere. When health insurance is tied to permanent full-time employment as it usually is in the US, it makes accepting nonbenefited contract work untenable for many.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:20 AM   #23
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Correct I really wish they would separate healthcare + job.Let folks purchase their own,or have a public option,choice of course.Stop calling a public option Obamacare or Romney care.But we can"t be grownups because their is to much money in the political system.Take care of stress issues,cause no one else does.
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Wow- this really hits home. As much as I like my work, I believe the stress of the job is slowly killing me. W2R's point about Sundays is so true. I don't remember the last good night's sleep I've had going into a Monday. And the strange thing is that I don't dread going to work... but there's no getting it out of my head. One of my greatest fears is that I'll eventually be able to retire but won't be healthy enough to enjoy myself the way I want.
It took several weeks for the 'Sunday PM blues' to go away.
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I'm counting on using "stress leave" as an excuse to retire and still collect full salary. We have a sweet deal here at w*rk: at retirement, you get paid out 40% of unused sick time, to a maximum of about 2.5 months.

However, it was pointed out to me that this is a stupid thing to do. I could get paid 100% of my sick leave for a total of 6 months if I could find some way to go out on medical leave. That, along with my 8 weeks of vacation time annually (x2) , could delay my retirement for nearly a year and my pension would be that much higher.

Stress leave sounds just perfect. Although I'm not stressed, I'm pretty sure I can fake it.

As the same wise person pointed out, the sick leave we have is part of our benefit package and is no different from vacation time, so why not use it.

So why do I feel that this is cheating the system?
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Stress leave sounds just perfect. Although I'm not stressed, I'm pretty sure I can fake it.

As the same wise person pointed out, the sick leave we have is part of our benefit package and is no different from vacation time, so why not use it.

So why do I feel that this is cheating the system?
Duh, well because you will be. It's because of people like you that are causing some of the problems with employment in the world. Sheeeesh!

Yeah, you have a right to it.
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Duh, well because you will be. It's because of people like you that are causing some of the problems with employment in the world. Sheeeesh!

Yeah, you have a right to it.

There have been times when I should have stayed home but chose instead to come to work (e.g. took only 4 days off post-hysterectomy instead of 6 weeks). My choice, I know. I could have used it all up if I had elected to do so, but I didn't.

It's a benefit I'm entitled to and is covered by the company's insurance.

But, that said, I may just take the pay-out. These guys have been good to me and I don't want to do anything underhanded (unless they p*ss me off).
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It's a benefit I'm entitled to and is covered by the company's insurance.
I have a lot of insurance also, Health, Auto, Home etc.. But I don't try to justify using it with phony claims.
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I have a lot of insurance also, Health, Auto, Home etc.. But I don't try to justify using it with phony claims.

Yeah - you're right.

I know it deep down in my gut. If I don't do the right thing, I'm sure karma will get me.

The pay-out will feel much better in the long run.
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On the other hand, a lot of people will quit their jobs and claim a year or more of unemployment insurance before retirement, even though they have no intention of looking for job or returning to work. That's one type of insurance that some people don't seem to have any compunction in using, it seems.

This conversation is stressing me out. Maybe I need to go on sick leave.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:54 PM   #31
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Stress does affect the immune system. It may also affect cancer progression.
I've wondered about whether this impacted the progression of some of my cancers. (Cancer-free now, thank God). And last night, my husband mentioned the death of Steve Jobs. I asked about his age--identical to mine. Reality check!
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