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Old 05-15-2014, 07:35 AM   #21
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I used to drink a bottle of soda occasionally but I completely stopped all sugary drinks since October when I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I drink water instead and no added sugar in my coffee or tea.

The combination of a low carb diet, reduce sugar intake and increased exercise helped me lose 27 Lbs and dropped my glucose levels to non diabetic.
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I drink soda with Rum or if I'm at a restaurant. That way I still get my delicious sugary drinks but keep consumption low to avoid the obese thing.
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Fruit juices are nearly as bad -- tons of sugar. Eat an apple a day but don't drink a glass of apple juice. Same goes for many low fat processed foods - sugars (and other carbs) are added to increase palatability after the tasty fats are removed.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:20 AM   #24
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I'm a recently admitted carbohydrate addict. I haven't had a non-diet soft drink in decades. I'm a distance runner and thought I was eating relatively healthy. I blamed my age for my weight gain and inability to take if off in spite of dieting and a lot of exercise. I whined to my endocrinologist who handed me his diet for overweight diabetics. The diet essentially cuts out all sugar and most fatty foods. I've dropped 15 pounds in the last 6 weeks without a second thought - no obsessing over calories. It's amazing how much sugar is in processed foods. I only get 1 piece of fruit/day, so I'm eating mostly vegetables and meat. I have oatmeal with Splenda for breakfast. There are some wonderful protein bars with a gram or less of sugar that get me through the afternoon.
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Water, wine (or beer, depending), and coffee. That's about all you need, as my DD's boyfriend once wisely said.

(And yes, absent the way eating healthy vs not healthy makes you feel/impacts health, it really is as simple as calories in vs calories out . . . track both diligently and I'm confident you'll quickly see for yourself. )
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Fruit juices are just as bad. Many store fruit juices have added sugar of HFCS.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:26 AM   #27
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There are some wonderful protein bars with a gram or less of sugar that get me through the afternoon.
Can you share which brands of protein bars are that low in sugar? I've not been successful in finding any to date, and have turned to raw nuts instead, which aren't always as convenient to cart along as a wrapped bar is.

I likewise gave up sugar some months ago, and feel much, much better for it.
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I like the Atkins bars. Low carb and they taste good and 1g sugar. Sure they have something else in them someone would find objectionable, but they are just a treat once in awhile for me.
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I really don't care for sweet things so much, so I rarely have a soft drink - maybe a couple a year. Occasional sweet dessert, but I lean more towards dark chocolate rather than sugary things.

But this made me curious, maybe I'll do a real detailed monitor of what I eat for a few days and calculate the sugar content. I dropped my ritual of a daily banana about a year ago, some good stuff in there, but a lot of sugar. Didn't miss it (and it's a pain to try to keep just-right-ripened bananas on hand), but didn't seem to lose weight ether. A few almonds are satisfying, and almost no sugar.

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I like the Atkins bars. Low carb and they taste good and 1g sugar. Sure they have something else in them someone would find objectionable, but they are just a treat once in awhile for me.
I used Atkins bars for a while until my dietician recommended against it. She claims that the artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols such as Maltitol have a negative affect on blood glucose and at times cause digestive problems.
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Preaching to the choir here, but astonishing how much more sugar Americans (and others) eat on average nowadays compared to long ago. I am pretty careful, and not big on soft drinks or processed foods, but I think I might be surprised if I tracked more carefully. See attached link for full infographic (abbreviated attached).

How Much Sugar Are Americans Eating? [Infographic] - Forbes

IIRC 9.5 teaspoons is the same as 38g/day. One soda/day can easily exceed that.
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As part of my plan to reduce my consumption of carbs I had to get rid of sugar. Now if I want something sweet/carby I make sure it is good stuff - high quality chocolate, a slice of homemade apple pie, etc. I have found that simply eating real food and keeping my carb count to about 100g a day works well. I let my body self regulate and it seems to know what to do. Amazing!
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I used Atkins bars for a while until my dietician recommended against it. She claims that the artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols such as Maltitol have a negative affect on blood glucose and at times cause digestive problems.
Oh, yeah, they can give digestive problems. OMG one day several years ago I had this little tin of sugar-free candies (not sure what the name was). I was reading a book and I kept taking one after another. Next thing I know I'm in SEVERE pain (gas cramps) all through my abdomen. I could not lay or stand up I was on my hands and knees on the floor in pain. Honestly, other people (for better or worse) would have been on their way to the ER for this pain. I waited it out and it passed (no pun intended, lol!) Never again! I learned my lesson!

As for the occasional soda. I do indulge if I feel like it. I don't buy it for home and don't always have it when at a restaurant, but at the movies I do admit to love a Cherry Pepsi with my popcorn. Everything in moderation. Speaking of your body 'self-regulating' - yes, it does. Even if you have a bad thing now and again, you can't add up the calories and say, "This will make me this much fatter in a year" because we DO self-regulate. And if all else fails and the automatic self-regulation doesn't work, then the good old "My jeans feel tight" effect starts up, and we watch it closer for awhile.
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Before we, as a country, go off the deep end and say that sugar is the root of all evil (as opposed to saturated fat, trans fat, and whatever else has been The Problem over the last 50 years), let's mention a few things:

- Your body generally requires sugar to function. Your muscles, liver, and brain require glycogen which is most easily produced directly from glucose.
- Not all sugars are created equal: HFCS, fructose, table sugar, etc., are not as easily converted to glycogen as dextrose/glucose and even maltodextrin.
- If you are physically active (we're talking strenuous or long duration activity, not walking your dogs!), there is a half-hour or so window after your workouts where you SHOULD take in simple sugars like dextrose/glucose.
- Juice is not as bad as soda. From a sugar perspective, absolutely it's bad. But soda, Gatorade, Vitamin Water, Monster, iced tea with sugar, coffee with sugar are almost completely empty nutritionally (yes, even Diet Coke with Vitamins). Juice will have naturally occurring vitamins (usually C). Juice is NOT the best way to get those vitamins, but juice does not equal soda in the heirarchy of dietary evil. It's a step below it, at least. "Juice drinks" are another matter entirely.

- The general rule everyone should follow is to get the most "bang for your caloric buck." This means avoiding nutritionally empty calories as much as possible, including: soda, juice, beer and liquor, bread, pasta, "whole grains," candy (sugar), etc., when your body doesn't need it. (Whole grains, breads, pastas, etc. are nutritionally empty in that your body can't absorb the vitamins contained therein nearly as well as it can from fruit or vegetables.) If you're not exercises strenuously/extensively, there is little utility for simple sugar in your diet. Fat is actually a far better option, particularly from foods with other nutritional value (avocados, butter on vegetables actually helps your body absorb nutrients, etc...)
- I drink water, coffee (I do add cream, no sugar, for the filling fat in the morning), wine periodically, and post-workout I make a home-brew recovery drink based in OJ with glucose and protein. This meets my needs as a serious athlete, and not many require that OJ/glucose/protein mix... otherwise, I avoid other liquid calories throughout the day.

- Does one coke a day make a marked difference nutritionally? Yes it does. For the metabollically average person, that 140 (completely empty) calories makes up almost 10% of your daily intake, yet does not fulfill any nutritional need, thus it does not sate your appetite at all. Chances are, you are taking in 140 extra calories every day.
(The rough rule for weight gain is 3000 extra calories creates a pound of bodyweight.)

- None of this mentions the effect of taking in 50g of sugar in a short period on your insulin tolerance, etc, and how that affects your appetite and perceived need for even more sugar.

People are right to "avoid" soda (and sugar) in general. That does not mean you have to "eliminate" them. Moderation in all things is the right answer. The question is, is "one per day" moderation? No, it's not. IMO, soda should be considered a "treat" just like cookies, cheesecake, Super Vanilla Mocha Latte with extra whipped cream, etc., and consumed accordingly.

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Good post, but I wasn't suggesting we should "eliminate" sugar or anyone "going off the deep end." I agree with "moderation in all things," but I myself did not realize just how much sugar is in soda, or processed foods - and I thought it might interest others. I don't drink soda often, and processed foods even less often, but I will probably curtail both even further. YMMV

And it was interesting to read about the 'low fat' guidance missteps (and how sugars replaced fats in a big way), special interests & politics in foods, the calorie in-calorie out oversimplification, the correlation between sugar intake and obesity/diabetes, etc.
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I only have pop when I'm mixing it with whiskey, and that's even not that often.

Same goes for little containers of Yoplait/Dannon/etc yogurts! Turn the grams into teaspoons. The "whip" version is the same container, but 4 oz rather than 6 oz (they put air into to make it whipped), so just as many grams of sugar as well but in less product.
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I have to say I've always been amazed at USA's love affair with soft drinks. "Big Gulp" OMG!
Shortly after moving to the US, I remember walking into a 7-11 and being impressed with the 44oz super-tanker that you filled with the soft drink of your choice, before sealing off the top with a couple of plastic clips. The thing was huge!
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Low sugar protein bars: At 160 calories, 2g sugar; 17g fiber, I find QuestBar chocolate peanut butter to be the most satisfying 160 cal I could find. (I have not tried other flavors, but they vary in calories and sugar alcohol content.)

They are not cheap compared to other bars, but make a cheap meal replacement.

If I cut out my other 150 calorie treat (kettle chips), I would probably lose weight :-)

I don't like the taste of any artificial sweetener and never trained myself to water, so was happy when I found flavored seltzer water (safeway brand is soda cost). I find zero calories, zero sweetener lets me enjoy a refreshing drink.
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I like Coke Zero and many of my retired friends drink Diet Coke. Many of us friends in TX worked in chemical plants and refineries at one time so we have no fear of drinking stuff that comes from smelly, leaking pipes.

My friend's mother just passed away last week at 103 after playing bridge with friends then taking a short nap (which turned out to be a real long nap). She liked tea and drank Pepsi occasionally. She also ate food that contained sugar. Maybe if she didn't she would have still been here?

I'm not so sure having occasional soft drinks is so bad as if it was the population of the U.S. would be declining rather than increasing. Also, there is sugar in most foods and alcoholic beverages, including wine (which I used to make - lots of sugar is used to ferment into alcohol.
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