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Old 04-27-2009, 07:44 PM   #41
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I've been washing my hands more also, which is saying something. Since DD started daycare last winter I've been sick non stop so have upped the hand washing.

If I could I'd hide in my house for a week, just to see where this goes. But, DD goes to two preschools, so I'm sure we get the mix of plenty of germs.

Lots of travelers coming into work lately, now I'm afraid to deal with them.

Could be the beginning of "the end." I guess I attend too many Emergency Operations briefs...
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:49 PM   #42
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Ah just in time for the great white shark convention, and dengue fever season, have fun
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I didn't realize there was dengue in Hawaii, I just thought it was in the tropical parts of the mainland US, Latin America and the Caribbean. I guess with the swine flu nobody will worry about dengue for a while.
Did we mention that Hawaii has the nation's highest rates of hepatitis, tuberculosis, dengue fever, and West Nile virus?
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Voted yes. Live and work around / in NYC. I take public transportation everyday. I can't avoid my fellow swine flu incubators.

But about all I can do is wash my hands regularly, avoid touching surfaces where possible, and try to keep my germ infested mitts away from my face.
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Did we mention that Hawaii has the nation's highest rates of hepatitis, tuberculosis, dengue fever, and West Nile virus?
Really? I had no idea. I thought all you had to worry about was what time the surf came up, and the banana bunchy virus.
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My Mexican friend from Kirkland has 3 sibs in Mexico City, one is a nurse. He talks to them daily and they have a pretty sanguine attitude about how things are going. Of course, it may just be fatalismo. He did say that almost everyone is wearing masks.

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Funny how things work out. Just a few days ago I was disappointed about missing out on my nephew's wedding in Cancun, due to my aunt's illness. Not so disappointed right now. I know one thing, I going to tell my Alabama relatives that made the trip to stay the heck away from us for awhile.

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I was a little surprised that the dept of homeland security is involved in this. I guess viruses are terrorists.
Among other things, DHS is responsible for border security. If this flu had an epicenter in Ghana, we'd be checking travelers to see if they'd been to Ghana and asking them health questions when they enter the country. Basically, we'd be tightening things up. Let's see if DHS does anything significant to reduce the flow of undocumented/unscreened immigrants from Mexico now that there is a no-kidding reason to do it (aside from the longstanding economic, law enforcement, and national sovereignty reasons that apparently don't count for anything where Mexico is concerned).
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A county health official said "the public should not panic" over the swine flu... he's right, the TV stations are doing the panicking for us. All the TV ditzies are running around in tight circles screaming "pandemic" "over a thousand dead in Mexico" "schools closed", and of course, much much video of people walking around with masks on. Oh what fun, a new story to milk to death.

And just what is with the masks? I wouldn't think that any mask that has a weave tight enough to stop a VIRUS, is going to let oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide freely flow through (given the limited surface area of a mask), in levels to support the continued respiration of a person. I thought an electron microscope was needed to view a virus, which is down in the 10's of nanometers. I think those masks would be like a bug flying through a tree, as far as a virus is concerned.

I saw people with NIOSH 95 masks on... good for breaking up concrete with, IIRC, a bit too loose for a virus...

And almost every mask-wearer I saw on TV was not wearing them correctly. Any mask with nose stays needs to have them formed to fit tightly to the sides of the nose and over the bridge of the nose. I saw almost all have an air space to each side of the nose... geeze, they even will have to instruct people how to wear a mask. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding this mask-thing. Maybe it's a fashion statement now. I'm really late on this fashion stuff.

I suspect that months from now, this all will be looked back upon, with the realization that the H1N1 "swine flu" had been in the US for months before now, that many have had it, and didn't know that it was anything other than the flu that was going around.

As to all the deaths in Mexico, well, many people die in Mexico every day. We don't know how big the population was/is that had that actual strain. The actual death rate could be low. Every winter here in the US, some people die from the flu. Usually due to fluid buildup in the lungs.

Every year, over 30,000 Americans die in motor vehicle crashes. If we knew nothing about the population, miles driven/ridden per person per year, etc., the TV stations would be running around screaming not to get in cars or trucks, they're certain killers.

I'm such a skeptic, I know...
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And just what is with the masks? I wouldn't think that any mask that has a weave tight enough to stop a VIRUS, is going to let oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide freely flow through (given the limited surface area of a mask), in levels to support the continued respiration of a person.
Right, the mask won't stop an individual virus. If properly worn and the right kind, it will stop the inhalation of aerosolized droplets of moisture from the lungs of those with the virus. These small moisture globs can carry many many viruses deep into the lungs of other people. In addition, the mask helps prevent people from inadvertently touching their noses and mouths with their hands. That helps stop the spread of disease.
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And just what is with the masks?
And almost every mask-wearer I saw on TV was not wearing them correctly. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding this mask-thing. Maybe it's a fashion statement now. I'm really late on this fashion stuff.
I think you've answered your question.

Hot chicks dig guys wearing masks-- it makes them look hip, happenin', with it, and concerned for the welfare of their fellow humans...

To say nothing of being a great conversation starter for picking up hot chicks.
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I checked no. However, I am coordinating an international conference that will bring 1200 people to my town. Attendees will be from all over the world. It is something we are discussing at that level.
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I chose "No" because after living through SARS in Hong Kong, I had some adopted some habits which I just continued to practise like avoiding crowds if I can, wash my hands, cook food throughly, stand far far away from people who do not cover their mouths when coughing, stay away from office when I am sick,etc etc. There were some scary moments during SARS in Hong Kong for e.g. the evacuation of 2 buildings because tenants in the flats had died. Also, a few medical staff died attending to patients. I hope the swine flu won't get so bad and can be contained.
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At this point its just media hype as 30k+ people generally die every year from flu related illnesses, When the death toll starts hitting 100+ per day it might be in ones best interest to start taking precautions but even then it falls short of the number of people who die in car crashes every day and no one seems to worry about that.
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Neither of your comparisons hold water. Of course both currently kill more yearly than swine flu. The worry with swine flu is 1. its apparent transmittability. If it transmits as easily as feared, it will grow exponentially. 2. The fact that the infected won't show signs for several days, during which time they are spreading the flu to others. Therein lies the fear. The items you compare it against don't grow exponentially. They are a more or less static number.
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Jambo101:

Or to continue on Keim's comment, it is relatively simple to take precautions now and most likely those precautions will do more good the earlier they are taken.
Yes, it may be a false alarm, but if it isn't the downside is huge.
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DS is flying to Mexico this Friday for a wedding near Cancun. Hope the resorts are taking this seriously.
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I figure that by the end of May we'll be fighting swine flu zombies in the streets. Fortunately, we've got plenty of old LPs with which to defend ourselves. So we don't need to change anything to get ready.
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Chicken pox, swine flu, bird flu, mad cow disease.......they're all out to get us! Perhaps I should become a vegetarian.....
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Zathras,
Why would we suspect, just because the party in power said something like "Never let a good crisis pass you buy" And, just to show you I don't blame the current leaders of government, the past leaders did the same!
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