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Old 05-06-2009, 02:00 PM   #141
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This swine flu pandemic has gone on longer than expected; there is now a dangerous shortage of surgical masks, forcing people to look to other means of protection.

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They have sequenced the genome....

Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg First in World To Decode Genetic Makeup of H1N1 Flu Viruss - Public Health Agency of Canada

which means they can now start making the vaccine. However, manufacturing for the "regular" flu vaccine has already commenced. They will have to decide whether there is time to incorporate H1N1 into it and protect us all when this comes back in the Fall.
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Congratulations to the Canadian virologists! Great work!

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Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg First in World To Decode Genetic Makeup of H1N1 Flu Viruss - Public Health Agency of Canada

which means they can now start making the vaccine. However, manufacturing for the "regular" flu vaccine has already commenced. They will have to decide whether there is time to incorporate H1N1 into it and protect us all when this comes back in the Fall.
Way to go, neighbours!
Is the long plan-ahead timing for the vaccine due to growing things in a Petri dish and testing for purity and packaging?
I was asleep in Biology that day.
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Well, we did get the h@ll out of Texas!

We already had the trip planned, but decided not to delay the trip to wait out the endless days of bad weather (thunderstorms) headed our way.

And we bought some of that alcohol hand wash stuff and have a tube in the car and one in the RV and use it whenever we go to public places - grocery store, truck stop, etc.

Our RV is always well stocked. We usually stay out in the boonies. In Arkansas right now (also planned). No cases here yet.

Hopefully this strain stays mild. Finger's crossed.

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Is the long plan-ahead timing for the vaccine due to growing things in a Petri dish and testing for purity and packaging?
I was asleep in Biology that day.
I'm not an expert, but yeah, that's about it. The pharmaceutical companies will crank up the assembly lines now (they need to grow lots of virus as a first step, but with the genome, that's fairly straightforward). Usually the vaccine is actually manufactured and safety tested by September and is then distributed far and wide before we begin rolling up our sleeves in October. The problem is, if they mothball it waiting for H1N1, the "regular" flu may arrive in town before the vaccine.
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I'm not an expert, but yeah, that's about it. The pharmaceutical companies will crank up the assembly lines now (they need to grow lots of virus as a first step, but with the genome, that's fairly straightforward). Usually the vaccine is actually manufactured and safety tested by September and is then distributed far and wide before we begin rolling up our sleeves in October. The problem is, if they mothball it waiting for H1N1, the "regular" flu may arrive in town before the vaccine.
I heard the vaccine will take until late summer to manufacture, due to how it is made with chicken eggs or something
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I heard the vaccine will take until late summer to manufacture, due to how it is made with chicken eggs or something
We're still cultivating it in chicken eggs, a 50 year old technology. There is work being done on better and faster methods; no way will the new methods be ready by this year's flu season.
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We're still cultivating it in chicken eggs, a 50 year old technology. There is work being done on better and faster methods; no way will the new methods be ready by this year's flu season.
And, we're lucky this is swine flu. I've read that a bird flu vaccine cannot be cultivated using the chicken egg incubation method, so we'll have virtually no chance to produce millions of doses of a bird flu vaccine in a few months (until we develop and field a technology that doesn't depend on chicken eggs).
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It's not clear how long the vaccine will take.....
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It's not clear how long the vaccine will take.....

BBC NEWS | Health | How to make a swine flu vaccine

Experimental swine flu vaccine expected in weeks
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Very interesting Meadbh; thank you.
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Au contraire; there's still plenty of hell left in Texas...
So glad you said that...
I was going to, but my zip code wisely held me back.
Catapult launched rotten tomatoes have a longer range these days, I'm told.

Redemption clause: I've been to TX a few times and enjoyed the journey every time.
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So glad you said that...
I was going to, but my zip code wisely held me back.
Catapult launched rotten tomatoes have a longer range these days, I'm told.

Redemption clause: I've been to TX a few times and enjoyed the journey every time.
I've never been there, cuz: "All my exes live in Texas"........
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I for one have taken comfort in the fact that you, Moemg and Rich in Tampa haven't freaked out about this swine flu thing. I trust that if things really get bad, you three will let us know, I trust you guys.......
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I for one have taken comfort in the fact that you, Moemg and Rich in Tampa haven't freaked out about this swine flu thing. I trust that if things really get bad, you three will let us know, I trust you guys.......
I'm going to my niece's graduation from college tomorrow. She just got back from Cancun 2 weeks ago so I'm going to wear a surgical mask. I'm sure that will make her proud of her uncle.
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I for one have taken comfort in the fact that you, Moemg and Rich in Tampa haven't freaked out about this swine flu thing. I trust that if things really get bad, you three will let us know, I trust you guys.......
Thanks FD!

My healthcare organization has been issuing daily bulletins and advice and all resources related to the outbreak are easily accessible online. There is even an influenza dashboard with realtime information. Pandemic planning has been ongoing since SARS and we are probably better prepared for a pandemic than at any time in history. As of today, the level of readiness is being stepped down, to be reactivated at any time there is an uptick in the numbers or other red flags. Just like investors, we have become active rather than passive managers.

I for one do not think the WHO has been alarmist (other than panicking about pork, which appears to be perfectly safe unless you eat pigs who have died of natural causes). This is a serious matter. If it is under control now, it's not by accident, but because of all the monitoring and intervention that has, and is, being done. For example, in China, if H1N1 gets in and combines with the H1N5 avian virus already there, it would be a very dangerous virus. That's why China quarantined a bunch of Canadian students. It made perfect sense to do so.
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I'm going to my niece's graduation from college tomorrow. She just got back from Cancun 2 weeks ago so I'm going to wear a surgical mask. I'm sure that will make her proud of her uncle.
But how will you take your meds with the mask on?

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Darn it! 5 cases showed up in Arkansas, 4 in the county where we are camped right now! Serves us right for spending some time near the biggest city, but we really needed a Whole Foods Market fix - last visit was in Jan. Doing some shopping accompanied by lots of hand cleaning, and then we'll be heading into more remote areas in a few days.

Oh - wait! Those 4 cases are from out-of-state airmen training at a nearby army base. Maybe a wee bit more contained than one might expect under normal circumstances.

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Same thing I do to protect myself from the 'average flu'. Get my shots, wash my hands more often.
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