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Old 01-14-2018, 03:06 PM   #41
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Googily sorry for your loss.

There was an ambulance brought in for me at Megacorp one day. DW insisted I'd had a stroke and went to w*rk anyway. The EMTs agreed and took me away. They were very nice, but I didn't understand what was wrong. I know I didn't want to stay where I was mentally and physically. My brain wasn't workin.

I'd be a fool to say I was not afraid, but I didn't understand what a stroke was anymore. It was a really bizzare day.🤣 I really knew something was seriously wrong with me and didn't want to face the truth.

When I was examined, the doc told me he was sure I hadn't had a stroke, but something called TGA(transient global amnesia) and would be just fine. They did a CT to ensure I hadn't had a stroke.

It was strange as I started coming out of it in the ER. At one point I had a case of the giggles at myself. It was like watching a weird movie of my own messed up behavior.

Since the ambulance took me from work my manager called to see if I needed a ride or assistance home. I assured him I was just fine to get home, after all I knew where I lived? Didn't I?

He insisted I ask the doc; I had to admit to him I really wasn't sure where I lived or exactly how to get there. The doc reassured me I would when I left. Someone did review my plan to get back to work and then drive myself home.

I did end up where I was supposed to be with no long term effects(really). I am fortunate it wasn't more serious, life is pretty fragile.


Heck of a story. Never heard of a transient global amnesia event. Looked it up. One more thing to worry about, oh my.

At least from my cursory read, TGA is rare and not recurring.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:02 PM   #42
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So everybody has gone out and bought Michael Greger's "How Not to Die" book and changed their eating habits, right?
No way! I only take lifestyle advice from chiropractors or Doctors on daytime television. It's the American way!
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Those who advise against OMY syndrome (with good reason) presumably should also advise against very low WR’s?
Excuse my ignorance, what is a WR?
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Heck of a story. Never heard of a transient global amnesia event. Looked it up. One more thing to worry about, oh my.

At least from my cursory read, TGA is rare and not recurring.
Thanks, and I wouldn't worry😁. While it is pretty rare I think another forum members family member had one. I know a Megacorp guy who had one years later too.

To me the importance is to keep doing the right things healthwise, unrelated to a TGA. Get to the best doctors you can. My diagnosis went from pretty grim to you can drive home because of the proper specialists, tools, education.....

In my case the EMTs told me what hospital I was going to, as it was a level 1 trama center that specialized in strokes. I don't remember much of that day. I do remember the calm confidence the doc had! I knew he was the best person to care for me right then.
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Excuse my ignorance, what is a WR?


WR is withdrawal rate. Generally is the pct of portfolio money withdrawn per year divided by the portfolio amount.

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This is pretty much the worst case

I read this thread with interest. Obviously it strikes a chord and is an easy one to "justify" our ERs. And, for us, that is okay because we’re savers.

Where the notion of this thread becomes destructive is if it is used as a justification for bad financial behavior: I could die tomorrow so I should buy/do xyz now while I still can. All to often that is the excuse I hear people use to spend today instead of saving for tomorrow.

Personally I MUCH prefer dying with too much money than living with too little...
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For those on this board, LARS, I think they're generally being overly conservative.

Most model level spending, when the reality is that it will decline. I think that the planning mentality exhibited by folks here will allow them to make course corrections long before they're out on the street.
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I wonder if there are any stats on people just dying at work and not from an OSHA defined work type physical injury. In my thirty two years at mega corp I experienced at least five deaths from heart attacks that I can easily recall.
My uncle, who was a marathon runner, died of a massive heart attack in his manager's office one Monday morning. He was only 42. This was in 1978, so there weren't as many good diagnostic tests back then.
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I read this thread with interest. Obviously it strikes a chord and is an easy one to "justify" our ERs. And, for us, that is okay because we’re savers.

Where the notion of this thread becomes destructive is if it is used as a justification for bad financial behavior: I could die tomorrow so I should buy/do xyz now while I still can. All to often that is the excuse I hear people use to spend today instead of saving for tomorrow.

Personally I MUCH prefer dying with too much money than living with too little...
I’m with you. Life is certainly fragile and it’s really a crap shoot as to how long we have. But around here at least, being good planners, we usually overestimate our longevity as to be “conservative” in our spending. It tends to work the other way when retiring though, ie sooner the better “because you never know”. The two concepts are not totally consistent but understandable I think.
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Personally I MUCH prefer dying with too much money than living with too little...
Wouldn't we all? You are very fortunate to have that choice.

In order to get to the "too much money" plateau, I'd have spent another decade at MegaCorp. A soul-killing and very unappealing prospect.

I prefer to look at it this way: I have a pretty good handle on how much money I have, and how that will allow me to live. I have no idea how much TIME I have, or how my health will be during that time.

I know which one *I* want to maximize.
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I really appreciate hearing these stories. We are all in this together for sure. Three years ago my family physician who also was a friend and lived 5 doors down, had a heart attack in his office one morning in May. Lived 7 days at OSU intensive care before giving up the ghost. He was 56. Ugh, tough one for me.

A week ago Saturday we had a snowfall and a wonderful physician that I call on every month was shoveling his driveway.....poof, gone. Went into his office that Monday...girls were crying just getting the news. He was 62. Such a great guy. My dad passed at 58.

Makes you really contemplate your financial decisions. I’ll be 63 in March. My plan was pulling the plug at 65. Megacorp is crushing my lifestyle. Think I’m only good for 12 more months, then I’ll just pay for my own health insurance for a year. Like some of you have said I feel like I’m running out of life .
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I just had coffee with good friend and the subject of retirement came up. He wants to retire at 70. His reasoning is that his 90+ year old father is still up and about, keep his own home, drives and generally lives his life without needing care.

My neighbor passed a few months ago. He as 92 and active until the few months before he died. Oh, he retired from the Post Office after 30 years. A few years back he commented that he had reached the point where he had been retired longer than he had worked!

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That's one of my goals!
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In the past 3 weeks, we know of three people who have slipped on ice and hit their heads hard. Brain damage. Different types, all ended up in hospice and died. All roughly 60 years old.

Those of you who have sworn off living where there is ice and snow may have it right.

I need to convince myself to be more careful about walking on snow and ice, perhaps even think about a light skiing helmet or similar. And to stop working on ladders...

Getting old has it's issues, but it is better than the alternative!
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This week one of my best friends from high school was diagnosed with acute erythroid leukemia. The prognosis is not good. He will start chemo after a blood transfusion. He is 59, married with 3 kids and was still grinding away at work with lots of travel at times. Just another sober reminder that life (and good health) is precious.
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In the past 3 weeks, we know of three people who have slipped on ice and hit their heads hard. Brain damage. Different types, all ended up in hospice and died. All roughly 60 years old.

Those of you who have sworn off living where there is ice and snow may have it right.

I need to convince myself to be more careful about walking on snow and ice, perhaps even think about a light skiing helmet or similar. And to stop working on ladders...

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ditto. Last winter was long and cold. Lots of snow. And freeze thaw cycles. I had never had traction devices. After a fall on our short (5') steep drive approach we got some that we leave by the door. I hit my head pretty good. Didn't go unconcious but I laid there for a minute or 2.
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