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Old 12-30-2009, 08:01 PM   #21
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Have you had your blood level tested? It would be interesting to know if you have a normal level of Vitamin D in your blood with such a low level of sun exposure.
No. I have an annual blood test done but Vitamin D level is not on the list of things tested.
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:31 PM   #22
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wasgotfire: Why am I not understanding what you are asking? Are you wanting to know how much time in the sun you need to spend? If so, I've heard 20 minutes a day for your sufficient amount of D.

Buckeye, I did have my D checked with a blood test and I was a tad low. It confirmed what someone told me about their pains and their Dr. saying take some D.
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Don't have the links to back this up at my fingertips; but, IIRC, the sun exposure time is related to three major things:
1) How close you are to the equator and/or the time of year as you approach the poles. (Less time needed in the summer; can't really get enough sun in the winter if you are far enough away from the equator.)
2) Skin tone: Less time in the sun is needed for fairer skinned folks.
3) How much skin (surface area) you are actually exposing (short sleeves vs. shirtless, etc.)
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My doc read my blood test results today. I have D3 coming out of my ears. He suggested 2000 units per day.
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My doc read my blood test results today. I have D3 coming out of my ears. He suggested 2000 units per day.
Do you remember what your reading was?

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I started taking 5000 IU of D3 last February. Just over two months later I was tested and I was at 38 ng/mL which was a tad on the low side. I was tested again in late October and had made it to 58 ng/mL which was near where I was targeting.

I have been having my levels tested through the study sponsored at http://grassrootshealth.net. The site also provides plenty of information about Vitamin D deficiency.

The biggest effect that I noticed when I started taking it was the reduction/elimination of depressed feelings. I must of had SAD last January because once I started taking D3 I became very content.

I live in Minnesota and its cold outside.
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I was trying to bring up the issue amount of sun that hits the skin and how direct it hit’s the skin. I know going out side when only my hands and face are uncovered must be different then when I have on short sleeves and shorts. I have heard sitting in front of large windows in direct sunlight on cold days can help with your vitamin d.

I’m ADHD and bipolar so I have to pop a pill every day to keep me stable. I also take 2 name brand multi vitamins; one in the morning and one in the after noon. I have to get blood work done 3 times a year and everything stays with in normal ranges.
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tapper, looks like that company grassrootshealth charges $40 every 6 months for you to send them a blood test. Alot cheaper than the $500+ I paid for a full Complete Blood Count. Thanks for that information.

Yes, my girlfriend was a public health nurse for years and years, and said for me to make sure my mother--who is feeble and never goes outside anymore--sits near a sunny window, which she does anyway, to get sun. So, it works.

From what I've read, wasgotfire, I understand that you need 20 minutes (10 at the least) of sun per day WITHOUT ANY SPF ON which prevents the sun from really hitting you. But haven't read much on how much should be uncovered--except don't wear a hat either so the sun can hit your head. Anyone here know better than I?

wasgotfire: So glad, also, that you really watch yourself with that double-whammy of ADHD and bipolar. So many folks with the bipolar don't and take themselves off their meds. BIG, BIG mistake.
I happen to know these two situations well having been exposed to them by having family members (some ADHD types and stepfather was bipolar--one who wanted to go off his meds). Rough...but you sound as if you are doing a more than excellent job of helping yourself. Congrats!!!
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I say less clothing means less time in the sun. Just change it up from the polar bear club.

One of my brothers ended up with bad epilepsy and I ended up what was thought to be bad ADHD as a child. As I grew up I could control more most of the ADHD but started having a lot of slight bipolar sings pop out. Switched up meds and haven’t had any real issues until insurance wants to change what I’m on.
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Wasgotfire, maybe if you get naked you can get away with 10 minutes. Seems I heard something like that, anyway.
Not unusual to grow out of the ADHD around 15 or so, Wasgotfire. Maybe you did that, too?
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Wasgotfire, maybe if you get naked you can get away with 10 minutes.
Yep. Not likely the cops have a response time less than that.
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That’s not as far as I wanted to take it; I think I would still like to wear briefs. I don’t want to expose parts of my body to sun that has not seen it in years.

I still do a lot of finger counting, over multitasking, mentality ahead of stuff, twitches, and a few other things. I have out grown some stuff and have seen specialists in behavior modification for help in other things.
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Ha, I don't remember the number very well, only his comment. I think it was in the 40's ng/ml, but it could have been 60. (30 is minimum; 74 is high end.)
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Wasgotfire: I'm sure with shorts and a tshirt on, required sun time is still 10 minutes. With a coat on it would be 20 as I understood it.
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What is the skin to sun to time contact time?
Could we do more skin to sun contact and drop the amount of required time needed in the sun?
According to Dr. Davis (see heart scan blog - scro down to vitamin D subject on the left side - have fun - he has 75 posts on it), "We also know that a vacation on a Caribbean beach in a bathing suit will increase vitamin D blood levels to the 80-110 ng/ml range without ill-effect (at least in young people who maintain the capacity to activate vitamin D in the skin, a phenomenon that declines as we age)".

I would assume that you couldn't do it all in one day without major sunburn, at least I couldn't, and with a deep tan, the synsythis must slow down. I've never heard of vitamin D toxicity just from spending all day in the sun, but George Hamilton does act a little strange.
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I live in northern Michigan, so there isn't a lot of opportunity to get skin exposure to sun in the winter months. I was taking 2,000 IU of Vitamin D daily for almost a year before I had my blood level tested, last April. I was still quite low, at 31 ng/mL. My wife was even lower, at 28 ng/mL. Since then, and after doing lots of reading on Vitamin D, I've been taking 6,000 IU daily. I'll get the same test done next April, and we'll see if there is an improvement (there should be). As someone else said, I do seem to notice a difference in my health since taking the higher amount (although it could be unrelated to Vit. D, I know) - I have not had even one cold or the flu this last year, and my SAD symptoms have lessened as well. Some of the reading I have done indicates that up to 10,000 IU daily should have no long-term adverse health consequences, but it's best to get the blood test done periodically, just to see where you are at. Some of the literature also now indicates that somewhere in the 50 - 70 ng/mL range is where you want to be for optimum health. I'm not a doctor, though, so please do your own research and/or talk to your doc before taking higher doses of any supplements.
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Well, I can say I bought some D3 vitamins because of the information on this board. I've been taking 5,000 i.u. a day--and plan to for the rest of this Winter (like 7 degrees today that feels like 1 degree, so nobody is out on the street now). I had terrible pains in one leg at night only before, and now they have completely disappeared. Lack of vitamin D? Must have been.
When Spring starts coming I'm dropping the amount to 2,000 i.u., and Summer I am outside alot so down to 1,000 i.u.
All this has confirmed my lack of desire to live up North again, for sure.
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I think the most important thing is to get a blood test done by your Dr and go from there.

I was tested in October and was surprised to find that my levels were at 24 with the suggested minimum level being 32. My Dr prescribed me 50,000 units to be taken once a month. When I go to my new Dr later this month I am going to get her to rerun the test to see if there has been any change.

I don't think this is a regular test, rather one that you need to request as I did. I asked because a friend had been diagnosed with low Vit D so thought I would check. We both live in California, however we are both extremely vigilant about sunscreen as well. I was surprised that my number was so low given that I was doing boot camp 5 days a week for an hour at a time in the sun.
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I was surprised that my number was so low given that I was doing boot camp 5 days a week for an hour at a time in the sun.
I guess that proves that sunscreen really does screen sun.

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Apparently self-testing for vitamin D is prohibited in New York state. Any suggestions?
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