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Old 02-03-2007, 08:04 PM   #21
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When I was a new mom, I worked at a large company and had great benefits with Kaiser Permanente. The ER cost a mere $50 copay. I had never heard of an "urgent care facility". There were several times that I took my kids to the ER (they always happened to get sick with high fevers on Friday night, right?) Anyways, my pediatrician had never told me to call the triage first or even to use an after hours facility. It was only later when I got into the insurance business that I learned more about urgent and after hours care. I think insurance professionals and healthcare professionals really need to do a better job of teaching new moms about the ins and outs of what to do when baby gets a high fever. Now, I usually wait 3 or 4 days for the fever to subside before I do anything, and if it doesn't go away by then, I call the triage nurse to get instructions as to what to do next.
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Re: Wait Times In Canada Or, Is This Our Future?
Old 02-03-2007, 09:36 PM   #22
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A quick baby primer from the pediatrician would definitely be a plus, although we've read more than our share from various web sites and there are plenty of books on the topic. I'd imagine the average working class parents dont have the info.

First time Gabe woke up with a high fever I was a little wigged out. Of course my wife had just called to say she was leaving on one of her 3-4 time/year ambulance trips with an injured patient and would be out of touch for a few hours.

Fortunately my neighbor, an EMT and dad with two older boys, took a quick look and said "ear infection...give him some tylenol and take him to the pediatrician tomorrow".

Absent the free available medical advice, I can see a lot of parents whisking their kids off to the emergency room with a high fever.

Told my wife when she got home that I'd briefly considered a trip to the ER. She said "Swell, they'd have stuck an IV in him, intubated him, and THEN checked his temp, pulse and BP..." :P
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I was wondering how the 'Free' Veterans Health Care in the U.S. compares to the Health Care in Canada for an Average Citizen?
My mother (military veteran's dependent, 80 yrs old at the time) broke her hip 4-5 years ago, and was in surgery early the next morning. The doctors "out at the base" did a splendid job -- the care from nurses and medics was great -- and she had a problem-free recovery.

She's only one data point -- but one that's very satisfied.
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My mother receives a monthly cheque of ~ $1000 from the U.S. RR retirement board. My father had worked for the Wabash/Norfolk Southern RR that ran through St. Thomas. He died in 1982 when he was 65.

Mother Zipper broke her leg at Christmas of 2005 and was hospitalized. After about 6 weeks she was booted to a long term facility and had to pay about C$2700 out of pocket until she was discharged in March of 2006.

It was a long haul but after many letters and phone calls to the very professional RR retirement board in Chicago MZ was reimbursed for the full C$2700.

My point is all the Zippers extended family and friends have been treated quickly with no problem in the Canadian system. And we are very thankful for the U.S. RR retirement board for picking up an uninsured hospital stay in Ontario.

I've mentioned before Mrs. Zipper works for the London Regional Cancer Centre here in London.

To the OP, if you are sick in Canada you will receive timely first-rate care. No questions.

If it is elective, you might have to wait.

Ranked out of 10, healthcare costs rate a 10 for Canadians.
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If Canadians "fixed" their health care system, a lot more Americans might consider expatriating to Canada. (That may or may not be a desirable outcome.) Here's a typical conversation between me and Frank, on the subject:

Frank: We could retire to another country. Lots of people do.
Me: I don't want to. Well, maybe Canada.
Frank: No way, not with their health care problems and wait times!
Me: OK, the U.S. it is, then!

Not to say that we don't have some huge health care problems in the U.S., especially concerning its expense. I have three more years to work until I qualify for lifetime medical benefits. There is no way for me to ER before then.
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My mother (military veteran's dependent, 80 yrs old at the time) broke her hip 4-5 years ago, and was in surgery early the next morning. The doctors "out at the base" did a splendid job -- the care from nurses and medics was great -- and she had a problem-free recovery.

She's only one data point -- but one that's very satisfied.
Congratulations!!! Anybody who is able to receive such fast care from a military hospital, without being a Congress critter or President is very lucky. I've heard exactly one story (yours) of quick service from the military hospitals in 36 years.
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Congratulations!!! Anybody who is able to receive such fast care from a military hospital, without being a Congress critter or President is very lucky. I've heard exactly one story (yours) of quick service from the military hospitals in 36 years.
Well, I had my daughter in the Navy hospital in Balboa Park, in San Diego. They took me in immediately and she was born right away. Guess that was one thing they couldn't delay!

That was back in 1978, and they only charged $16 for it since my (now) ex was in the Navy. What a deal.
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D'OH!! I should have been more specific. Add ".....unless the hospital has to be quick." to the second sentence in my last post.
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