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Old 08-01-2012, 06:22 PM   #41
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One of the problems of diminished capacity, is the Rumsfeld point about "knowing what you know" etc. .
This is tougher than it may seem. Alzheimers is often accompanied by personality changes that range from passivity, to persistent agitation, to
paranoia and aggression... and there may be no prior indication of these symptoms.
I am not convinced that even in early stages, that introspection can identify these predilections. Trying to plan for ones' own walk down the path is difficult.

One of the suggestions, made here on many occasions, is to obtain early diagnosis. Well meaning, to be sure, but not as easy as it sounds. There are many, many downsides to obtaining a diagnosis... either a private diagnosis or a legal diagnosis. While the progress in treatment is advancing, it is very slow, and even the most optimistic results show marginal improvement, short term, while long terms results are even less effective. Very tough call!
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Some time ago, I read about a couple, or was it just one person, who left the home to a non-related care giver in exchange for the help when they were alive. Sounded reasonable to me, but that must be a long-time care provider that they knew and trusted.

It's tough, even for people who have children to rely on. I have heard of elderlies who were practically robbed by their offsprings, and I am sure you all have too.
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Elder abuse is a worry. We will all be vulnerable, some more than others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_abuse
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I was going to make a comment along the same lines. Thank you, Meadbh.
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Elder abuse is a worry. We will all be vulnerable, some more than others.

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I hope I do not live so long that I will need to worry about it. Perhaps I can turn my pacemaker off somehow......
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the key word is trust.......who do you trust to tell you it's time to turn over the keys to your car or your finacial affairs to another. Find someone you trust and tell yourself every day you'll listen to them when they tell you it's time. I feel myself slowing down mentally, no one else sees it yet.......but they will and I'll be ready. I hope! And, some get dementia in middle age, others in their 80's and 90's. No one knows ahead of time......and some remain in denial, making life miserable for themselves and their family.
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When the circumstances of cognitive impairment warrant it, and depending on among other things family dynamics, drafting of a Power of Attorney or appointing of a Conservator of Estate is often a good idea. The former usually occurs with a functional family where, for example a child can act on behalf of the impaired individual. The POA implies that they will act as the cognitively impaired person would do if they had the ability to make the financial decision. The latter usually occurs when the cognitively impaired person has no family or trusted person to turn to or when the family is dysfunctional.
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I know of two cases where this is going on. People in denial can get really nasty, and cause a lot of harm. They refuse to see a doctor or give up anything (including driving), can't remember a thing they said an hour ago or that was said to them, get mean and accusatory when they're shown written evidence of what was said or done, and generally drive everyone around them nuts. I imagine some cases of "elder abuse" are caused by caregivers being driven over the edge.

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Ay, ay, ay! The curse of living too long. Not that I can pick my fate, but a quick stroke or heart attack would be something I wish for myself.

Now, where's that bottle of eau de vie I bought in Idaho. What is the price of a pack of cigarettes now? I have not bought one in a decade.
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I 'm in the same boat but I only have one competent niece, and I am sure she will have her hands full taking care of my older sister who's health is already starting to fail. My executor is sharp lawyer my age, but I doubt he'll be in much better shape by the time we are in our 70s.
There are couple of young dreamers on the forum who've impressed me enough that I might be comfortable giving them control and even willing to pay 1% but that seems unlikely to actually occur.
I think probably some managed payouts funds and pray I don't get Alzheimer are my best bets.
We can take care of each other. If we can remember who each other is...
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A cautionary tale

I think this link may have been posted on this board once before.

This is what can happen when one is on one's own. This was in a far place, but it could happen anywhere.

Dale Marsh, born 1935, died one month after this entry, in Sept, 2011, age 76 (if my maths are correct), having lived alone at Lake Atitlan, Guatemala for 10 years.

Dale Marsh Retired Expat In Panajachel Guatemala Becomes Senile - Retirement

What would I do differently? I wonder.
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