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01-11-2012, 01:13 PM
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What is your workout
I started a new workout in December that is 6 days a week for about 30 minutes to complete. Day 1, 3, and 5 I do three circuits with dumbells that are only multijoint or compound exercises. One or two minutes of rest between circuits. On days 2, 4, and 6, I do a high intensity cardio on a treadmill for 20 minutes with alternating speeds that gets my heart rate up to 90%. So far so good. I feel great.
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01-11-2012, 01:34 PM
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I did something like that for years. I've since concluded that there is a lot of wasted effort in a routine like that, and you may even be doing more harm than good.
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01-11-2012, 02:38 PM
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Please explain yourself as this workout was prescribed to me by a Navy Seal who has done this workout himself. He is my age which is 55 and is in fantastic shape.
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01-11-2012, 03:05 PM
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What I mean is that in doing the strength training 3x/week, you are probably only getting, say, 20% more benefit than if you did it only once per week. IOW, that seal might be in almost as good shape if he only did strength training once per week.
That is, the studies referenced in the first link suggest that much of the extra effort is wasted.
Of course, sometimes a 20% improvement is worth a 200% extra effort.
And as for cardio, the conclusions of Body By Science are that the risks of cardio far outweigh the benefits. IOW, how many former runners do you know who can no longer run due to knee problems?
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01-11-2012, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ripper1
I started a new workout in December that is 6 days a week for about 30 minutes to complete. Day 1, 3, and 5 I do three circuits with dumbells that are only multijoint or compound exercises. One or two minutes of rest between circuits. On days 2, 4, and 6, I do a high intensity cardio on a treadmill for 20 minutes with alternating speeds that gets my heart rate up to 90%. So far so good. I feel great.
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That looks like a pretty good schedule to me. You can look at the threads Al posted, but meanwhile what you are doing is just great imo.
FWIW, I'm in the Younger Next Year camp and do about 10 hrs a week exercise varying from yoga and body sculpting, to aerobic exercise such as cylcing outdoors and tennis, and weight lifting in a gym.
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01-11-2012, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
And as for cardio, the conclusions of Body By Science are that the risks of cardio far outweigh the benefits. IOW, how many former runners do you know who can no longer run due to knee problems?
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When I was in college in the mid-80s, I seriously considered starting a running program, but aborted that idea due to just this reason (knee/impact problems). But I still think cardio/aerobic exercise has its benefits, I just do it with things like bicycling/elliptical/plain old walking. Sure lifts your mood!
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01-11-2012, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
how many former runners do you know who can no longer run due to knee problems?
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Here's one.....with osteoarthritis - no cartilage in either knee......not caused by running but I'll bet it was exacerbated by it........in the 1970s I was doing 10 miles a day, every day.
Right now, (turned 69 last September), I try and do 80 minutes a day, over 2 sessions, on the elliptical at interval setting...........I'd like to do weights, but wrists/elbows are also affected.
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01-11-2012, 03:19 PM
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I have always heard that the best exercise is the one that you'll actually do. I am still looking for the best exercise!
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01-11-2012, 03:20 PM
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Trombone Al and Alan, thanks for your replies. I think everybody is different for their tolerances and recovery periods. I have worked out on and off most my life and I believe you just have to keep changing things up. I'm going to give this one a shot for about 3 months and then will probably go on to something different. The weight training sessions for me only last about 20 minutes and I'm not lifting real heavy dumbells. Doing circuits also give me the aerobic effect. I also incorporate stretching at the end. I played basketball a lot when I was younger, Trombone, and I have some friends who have indeed suffered knee injuries. But again I think everybody handles things differently. I guess I have been lucky there. I never run farther than 3 miles though.
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01-11-2012, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemo2
Here's one.....with osteoarthritis - no cartilage in either knee......not caused by running but I'll bet it was exacerbated by it........in the 1970s I was doing 10 miles a day, every day.
Right now, (turned 69 last September), I try and do 80 minutes a day, over 2 sessions, on the elliptical at interval setting...........I'd like to do weights, but wrists/elbows are also affected.
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Whenever asked for advice on a single machine to do a workout, I always recommend the elliptical trainer.
For the last couple of years we have done deep water interval training which again has no impact but is a great way to get the heart pumping.
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01-11-2012, 03:22 PM
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It's just like the old Nike commercial. "Just do it."
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01-11-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by steelyman
When I was in college in the mid-80s, I seriously considered starting a running program, but aborted that idea due to just this reason (knee/impact problems). But I still think cardio/aerobic exercise has its benefits, I just do it with things like bicycling/elliptical/plain old walking. Sure lifts your mood!
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Good quality t-mills usually have flex decks which help a lot.
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01-11-2012, 03:39 PM
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So, when you feel like you need to exercise, you lie down until the feeling goes away?
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01-11-2012, 03:47 PM
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So, when you feel like you need to exercise, you lie down until the feeling goes away?
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I haven't even tried the lying down exercise yet! But I wonder if I would actually do it
I have a nice workout from a trainer I used in the fall--five different routines with weights and a little cardio, more intense cardio on alternate days. I wanted something to improve my balance, flexibility, range of motion, strength, and most importantly, "something so I don't feel like an idiot in the gym." I do like it.
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01-11-2012, 03:53 PM
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I haven't even tried the lying down exercise yet! But I wonder if I would actually do it
I have a nice workout from a trainer I used in the fall--five different routines with weights and a little cardio, more intense cardio on alternate days. I wanted something to improve my balance, flexibility, range of motion, strength, and most importantly, "something so I don't feel like an idiot in the gym." I do like it.
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I completely agree that a workout that you like and feel good about is very important.
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01-11-2012, 03:58 PM
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I walk (briskly) ~2 miles 4-5 days a week and do a once a week yoga class. I know that's not enough - I should be doing some kind of weights - but have never figured out what would work for me. DH suggests I join his gym, but I've never enjoyed / stuck with a gym in the past and don't think I would now. But I figure what I'm doing is much better than nothing so I'll stick with it for now.
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01-11-2012, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MBAustin
I walk (briskly) ~2 miles 4-5 days a week and do a once a week yoga class. I know that's not enough - I should be doing some kind of weights - but have never figured out what would work for me. DH suggests I join his gym, but I've never enjoyed / stuck with a gym in the past and don't think I would now. But I figure what I'm doing is much better than nothing so I'll stick with it for now.
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Sounds like you are doing great. Keep it up.
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01-11-2012, 04:41 PM
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Run 4 miles 5 times a week, incline treadmill fast walk 2 days for 45 minutes. Lift weights 2 exercises each 4 sets every day before cardio
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01-11-2012, 04:44 PM
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My workout is to soak in the bathtub, pull the plug and fight the current.
Gotta do better.
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01-11-2012, 05:13 PM
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Run 3 miles every morning at daylight (the pup makes sure I am up everyday), weights and exercise (pushups/crunches) 3 days a week.
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