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Old 11-05-2007, 08:12 PM   #61
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Does body mass calculation mean anything if, say, two guys are 6 feet tall and weigh 200. One has a 40 inch wiast and chest is the same size. Arms aobut 13 inches. The other guy has a 33 inch waist and 44 inch chest and 15 inch arms. Obviously, the first guy is fat and the second is lean and muscular. The body mass index is the same. It's a useless, misleading concept, no? It penalizes the lean, athletic build which should be the normal build.
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Does body mass calculation mean anything if, say, two guys are 6 feet tall and weigh 200. One has a 40 inch wiast and chest is the same size. Arms aobut 13 inches. The other guy has a 33 inch waist and 44 inch chest and 15 inch arms. Obviously, the first guy is fat and the second is lean and muscular. The body mass index is the same. It's a useless, misleading concept, no? It penalizes the lean, athletic build which should be the normal build.

My Thoughts Exactly!! Let's celebrate by eating some doughnuts.
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Yaaahhhh, so I'm NOT too short then? ... make mine a bavarian creme
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Does body mass calculation mean anything if, say, two guys are 6 feet tall and weigh 200. One has a 40 inch wiast and chest is the same size. Arms aobut 13 inches. The other guy has a 33 inch waist and 44 inch chest and 15 inch arms. Obviously, the first guy is fat and the second is lean and muscular. The body mass index is the same. It's a useless, misleading concept, no? It penalizes the lean, athletic build which should be the normal build.

The only time this issue becomes a problem is if the muscular person is applying for health or other insurance and the company declines for the high BMI. The person's doctor can write a letter and affirm the applicant's health and that will remedy the situation. Otherwise, BMI is used by a doctor as a gauge of health but only a dumb doctor would think the muscular guy unhealthy because of his BMI, assuming all his blood tests were regular.
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Does body mass calculation mean anything if, say, two guys are 6 feet tall and weigh 200. One has a 40 inch wiast and chest is the same size. Arms aobut 13 inches. The other guy has a 33 inch waist and 44 inch chest and 15 inch arms. Obviously, the first guy is fat and the second is lean and muscular. The body mass index is the same. It's a useless, misleading concept, no? It penalizes the lean, athletic build which should be the normal build.
Heh, sounds like me. I'm 6 feet tall, and weighed 198 this morning -- which is higher than the 193-195 I'm more comfortable at. Blame it on ordering Chinese food last night. My waist is 33". Not sure about my chest, since I haven't gotten sized for a jacket in the last umpteen years, but 44 sounds about right. Not sure about my arm size.

BMI tells me I'm overweight (27) and would have to drop 12-15 pounds to be normal. My body fat scale is usually around 16.5%, which shows up as "fit" in those charts.

While BMI is easy to figure out, there are a whole lot of outlyers for whom the index doesn't really give an accurate indication
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Kronk proves my point. He's not an outlyer; he's a fit male who approximates what an an active male physique should be. It's ironic that many of the people who have a favorable body mass index measurement are actually "skinny/fat." I see them at the university. Soft bodied 18 to 20-somethings who are health time bombs. Little muscle mass but not yet girdled with the heavier hip and/or abdominal fat deposits which distinguish the 30 to 70 year olds who eat refined carb crap and consider a parking spot more than 100 feet from the Walmart entrance as exercise.
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The only time this issue becomes a problem is if the muscular person is applying for health or other insurance and the company declines for the high BMI. The person's doctor can write a letter and affirm the applicant's health and that will remedy the situation. Otherwise, BMI is used by a doctor as a gauge of health but only a dumb doctor would think the muscular guy unhealthy because of his BMI, assuming all his blood tests were regular.
You'd like to think. According to BMI standards, San Diego Chargers star LaDainian Tomlinson (listed as 5'10", 221) is obese with a BMI of 31.7. Go figure.

Presumably, if he applied for health or life insurance, he'd have to jump through the hoops with a medical exam the insurer accepted to show that he was merely solid as a rock with muscle, not fat.
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I'm 6' 8" (203cm) tall. At 260 lbs., the BMI says I'm morbidly obese. The BMI indicated that I should weigh about 210 lbs. I haven't been at that weight since my 2nd year in middle school (where I was a skinny 'beanpole', as my old photos will attest).
I just put in your numbers and it doesn't say your obese. It says your overwight at 28.5 BMI. Which i would say is accurate unless you have a larger than normal amount of muscle. If you have more muscle than the average person then body fat % is a much better thing to look at. I believe that as a whole the BMI scale is very accurate. The problem lies with society and what is percieved as normal these days. People around 30 BMI are considered normal and people around 20 are considered too thin which couldn't be farther from the truth. If my dad and I are walking together many people would say he looks more "normal" even though at 6'4" and 270 he's obese at 33 BMI. I am 6'6" 160 with a BMI of 18.5. I'm at the low end but any medical professional will tell you that my wieght is MUCH healthier than his is dispite people always telling me i'm too thin and until the less ten pounds they always told my dad he "carried it well". Now he's having heart problems at age 58 and has less than a 50% chance of living to retirement at 62.
The problem is not with the BMI scale it's with what is considered normal by the current overwieght society. The society that will likely be the first generation ever to die at a younger age than their parents.
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The problem is not with the BMI scale it's with what is considered normal by the current overwieght society. The society that will likely be the first generation ever to die at a younger age than their parents.
Well, given that we're now probably seeing the first generations of Americans who won't be financially better off than their parents, why not die sooner, too?
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Bah, 28.2 here. 6'6", 244lbs.

FUnny thing is, I used to always be put in charge of the fat boy program. I always told them that I wasn't qualified to counsel people on weight control.
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6' 3" 235 pounds. BMI is 28..............

However, I have added 15 pounds of muscle in the past 2 years...........armwrestling, anyone??
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22.5 now. 6 years back I was 27.3, went on a program and lost 40 lbs over 6 months. So far have managed to keep most of it off. The thing I noticed immediately was the improvement in blood work from the annual physicals (cholestrol and Tryglycerides in particular), plus BP came down quickly to normal. (it was a marginal BP reading that finally trigered by action to lose weight and exercise).
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The article says that better treatment these days is the main factor for lower death rate of overweight people. It also goes on to list a load of other non-fatal health issues linked to being overweight. My father is 82, started on blood pressure medication 2 years ago but otherwise is pretty fit and has never been sick or missed a day's work through sickness in his life. He was an underground coal miner for 41 years and has smoked like a chimney since he was 14 - he says it is the smoking that keeps him healthy. However he has always been very thin and has out lived his 2 obese brothers by 10 years and counting.

Like all health factors it varies tremendously and you'll always get plenty of exceptions, plus physical appearances can be deceptive, you need to look at a lot more factors than just BMI.
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6'0" 183lbs BMI 24.8 (one Big Mac from overweight)
I'm the same. Can't say I have a six pack but most people think of me as slim. I don't see how anyone could call a pound or two more a transition beyond "normal." Maybe a transition beyond ideal.
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So, dripping wet and no shoes, what's your BMI?

Thanks Rich, Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. I haven't been able to get on again but was able to today. Not good that I am listed in the obese section just before eating a Thanksgiving Day meal. I only feel heavy around the waist and this is another wake up call to do something about it. I look around when we go out and can't believe how we are all getting heavier and heavier. Have a great day, Talk to you soon, Jerry
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