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Old 12-31-2012, 06:36 PM   #1
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Why Hillary Clinton should seriously consider (not so) ER

This is NOT a political thread, it's a health one. According to Reuters, Hillary has a right transverse sinus venous thrombosis.

Clinton suffers clot behind right ear, full recovery seen | Reuters

Although they are insisting that she is fine, this is in fact a (fairly uncommon) type of stroke.

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Over 60% of patients treated with anticoagulants have a normal outcome, but that's not a given. In Hillary's case, one obvious antecedent factor was the dehydration she developed after picking up gastroenteritis recently on her grueling travels.

I like Hillary and I recognize that many people want her to run again for President of the US in 2016. But the fact is that she's 65, and has been looking her age recently. She has certainly paid her dues.

What are the odds that she will retire in 2013?
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What are the odds that she will retire in 2013?
Barring some serious medical complications, almost zero. High profile, high achiever types rarely voluntarily give up the spotlight.
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I wish her the best. Not my favorite candidate. But she has served her country in the best way she saw fit. Hope she recovers. We should all wish her the best no matter what our affiliation.
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Barring some serious medical complications, almost zero. High profile, high achiever types rarely voluntarily give up the spotlight.
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If she runs for President in 2016 she'd be 69 at the start of her term. Anyone thinking of voting for her needs to seriously consider who her running mate is because she may not make it thru her full term let alone 2 terms. She's an old 65. The last 20 years have been massively streesful for her. I think she SHOULD retire but I don't think she will.
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I wish her the best. Not my favorite candidate. But she has served her country in the best way she saw fit. Hope she recovers. We should all wish her the best no matter what our affiliation.
Agreed.
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This is NOT a political thread, it's a health one. According to Reuters, Hillary has a right transverse sinus venous thrombosis.

Clinton suffers clot behind right ear, full recovery seen | Reuters

Although they are insisting that she is fine, this is in fact a (fairly uncommon) type of stroke.

Medscape: Medscape Access

Over 60% of patients treated with anticoagulants have a normal outcome, but that's not a given. In Hillary's case, one obvious antecedent factor was the dehydration she developed after picking up gastroenteritis recently on her grueling travels.

I like Hillary and I recognize that many people want her to run again for President of the US in 2016. But the fact is that she's 65, and has been looking her age recently. She has certainly paid her dues.

What are the odds that she will retire in 2013?
I am glad you posted this since I was really wondering about how healthy she was, nice to have doctor confirm my suspicions.

It is interesting I didn't like her as a first lady. Gained a grudging respect for her as Senator. She wasn't my choice for Presidential candidate, but in hindsight I think the country made a mistake. I do think she has been an above average Sec. of State. and at this point definitely respect her.

But as you say she has been looking her age, for her own sake and for Chelsea sake I do hope she takes it easy for a bit, cause she certainly deserves to spend time with the grandkids.
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The news mentioned that she's flown about a million miles as secretary of state. We already know that long flights aren't good as long periods of sitting can cause clots.

Good thing they probably have the best medical care possible. First George Bush senior and now Hillary.
I wish them both the best.
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This is NOT a political thread, it's a health one. According to Reuters, Hillary has a right transverse sinus venous thrombosis.
Over 60% of patients treated with anticoagulants have a normal outcome, but that's not a given. In Hillary's case, one obvious antecedent factor was the dehydration she developed after picking up gastroenteritis recently on her grueling travels.
I like Hillary and I recognize that many people want her to run again for President of the US in 2016. But the fact is that she's 65, and has been looking her age recently. She has certainly paid her dues.
What are the odds that she will retire in 2013?
What's she going to do-- sit at home with Bill to write her memoirs, and pester Chelsea about grandkids?!?

If there's anyone who's doubly cursed against early retirement, it's lawyers who've enjoyed a taste of the successful political life.

I think she'll die someday. I think she'll die sooner if she stops doing the political life she's been enjoying for the last 20 years. I bet in the next four years she makes a bunch of lifestyle changes and waves her medical records in everyone's faces to prove how much healthier she is.
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Certainly hoping for a great outcome and wishing she would retire and take it easy. She works too, too hard.

Just last month my dad spent a week in the hospital for blood clots in his lungs. The dr. said, "his lungs are stormed". When i asked what that meant, he just said they were full of clots.

It will be awhile before my 82 yo dad feels good again. He is a very busy, farmer kind of guy, building fences, feeding large animals, stuff like that. He is still pushing himself every day, though he does take breaks for fishing.

I am guessing a clot in your skull is even scarier.
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The news mentioned that she's flown about a million miles as secretary of state. We already know that long flights aren't good as long periods of sitting can cause clots.

Good thing they probably have the best medical care possible. First George Bush senior and now Hillary.
I wish them both the best.
It appears that the secretary of state gets a private cabin on the 757 she generally travels on. This sort of implies a bed. In one interview she says she sleeps a lot on the plane as well. So in particular she likley does not sit as much as some of her staff may.
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It appears that the secretary of state gets a private cabin on the 757 she generally travels on. This sort of implies a bed. In one interview she says she sleeps a lot on the plane as well. So in particular she likley does not sit as much as some of her staff may.
That's good to know.
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I've thought she looked very weary the last few months and that the job and all the travel have been hard on her.

I wish for her full recovery and really hope she seriously considers whether she should stay in the political world or settle into a less stressful world. However her husband has made some significant lifestyle changes and I would imagine she could to.
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Like Hillary, I am in my 60's and all politics aside, just thinking about working that hard for so many years makes me tired!

Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I worked very hard until I was 60, but that was about all I was willing to do.
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Reagan has prostate problems before running for President, and medical science is thirty-five years more advanced. However, before Reagan was elected, Presidential politics was nowhere near as cut-throat as it is today, where both sides seek to exploit every single possible means of making the other side look bad, without any regard whatsoever to whether such information actually matters with regard to governance.
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+1. I am sure she's getting the best possible care, and she will be fine when all is said and done.
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I wish her the best. Not my favorite candidate. But she has served her country in the best way she saw fit. Hope she recovers. We should all wish her the best no matter what our affiliation.
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The news mentioned that she's flown about a million miles as secretary of state. ....
It's not the age..... it's the mileage.

I think she will take a year "off" to recuperate from her grueling schedule as Secretary of State and then decide. My money would be that she does decide to run in 2016. The thought of a first "lady" Bill brings a smile to my face.
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