Why I'd never retire to the third-world: Facebook husband death

[brewer12345]

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Originally Posted by explanade Not to pile on the grieving widow but yeah, what is the point for a successful tech executive to write some book telling women how to be successful. Her path isn't exactly repeatable. How many executives anywhere become billionaires in their 40s. What is her book saying, that she asserted herself at some point and became ridiculously successful so there's a lesson for other women? Story is that she had a mentor and she impressed Zuckerberg in an informal interview. FB would be huge whether or not he hired her. Zuckerberg is apparently generous. He gave stock to Sean Parker and stock worth hundreds of millions to a graffiti artist to decorate the lobby. Maybe she's planning to run for office some day. Meg Whitman had one of the largest self-funding political campaigns and Carly Fiorina won't go away, even though nobody supports her.

I always viewed it as propaganda to help flog a few more hours out of the corporate untermensch.

[NW-Bound]

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Originally Posted by FlyBoy5 Don't feel bad...actually, I am very PROUD of not knowing what in the world this "Lean In" is or who this Goldberg guy was.

Did I give the impression that I felt bad?

Still, I am impressed that Obama knew of this man (it would be too cynical to assume that the couple possibly were just generous contributors).

[EastWest Gal]

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Originally Posted by Big_Hitter my nephew is in med school and will take care of me in my old age...

Unless he becomes a pediatrician...


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[kcowan]

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 Hmmm, a few years ago Dad fell in the Riviera Maya and hit his head badly. Concussion, bleeding in the brain, the whole enchilada. They took him to a local hospital, stabilized him as best they could, then transferred him to a big time hospital in Cancun. 5 year old hospital built to top shelf international standards, any and every possible thing available, specialists out the wazoo. A few days in intensive care and another 10 days on site to make sure he could travel home. First class everything. Stateside doctor said there was literally nothing better they could have done for him....

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Originally Posted by Meadbh The Palmasola is an exclusive private residence club "at" (meaning next to) the Four Seasons. Current rates are $11,500 per night. Palmasola - Your Own Private Paradise - A Luxury Villa Rental in Punta Mita Mexico The website doesn't say how many villas there are, but probably no more than 100 in a lush complex. The private gym would not have any onsite staff. It makes you wonder whether a CCTV would have been helpful in alerting staff to the problem. My guess is that he had a heart attack, a seizure, was dehydrated, or just slipped, fell and hit his head, and became unconscious either due to a concussion or a rapidly advancing epidural hematoma. It appears he also lost blood externally. If he died due to exsanguination, it must have taken some time. Being unconscious, his airway could have been obstructed. IMHO this could have happened anywhere. The exclusivity of the resort (all alone in the private gym) likely contributed to his death. I myself own a fraction of a villa at a (less exclusive than that) resort in Canada, and we have a private gym with a view, which you usually have all to yourself.

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Originally Posted by BTravlin We have an internationally accredited hospital here on the island that is very good for most issues but most people go to the Cancun hospital for the really serious stuff. Cancun is only a 10 minute flight away. A friend of ours was treated there last year for blood clots in the leg and received excellent care. As for not traveling to third world countries, I can't imagine limiting myself in that way. I'll take my chances.

We live in PV for 6 months a year. Have been coming for 10 years but always with travel insurance. Never had a claim until 2 years ago. Now I can comment on my COPD diagnosis (mild), my retina laser patching, my 24-hours cardio halter, and my 8-day hospital stay for a severely infected spider bite, over the last 2 years.

All my experiences were with the utmost competence. Doctors even give their cell phone numbers and respond (he admitted me on Sunday for the bite).

These are all long stories but suffice to say that I am impressed with the medical system here.

David's autopsy indicated arrhythmia probably was the contributing cause to his fall. Too bad, they seemed to have it all. Sadly workout facilities at hotels tend to be lonely places.

[haha]

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Originally Posted by Sarah in SC . The reality for most women is much, much less starry than Lean In would have you believe.

Well heavens, who'd a thunk it!

Ha

[Sarah in SC]

Had your regular morning dose of Curmudgeon Crunchies this AM, I see.
Keeping you regular, I hope.

[audreyh1]

I'm out of touch too, apparently, as any reference beyond the treadmill accident went way over my head.

Seems like the treadmill accident could happen anywhere and there is no guarantee the person would be found in time to save their life.

Didn't help this poor guy recently killed by a nighttime tree fall in a state park not far from Houston, TX of famed medical facilities. http://www.khou.com/story/news/local...orms/26480455/

That story may discourage some would be campers.

[nun]

If we were to base where to retire on healthcare and longevity the US would be way down the list.

[Big_Hitter]

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Originally Posted by nun If we were to base where to retire on healthcare and longevity the US would be way down the list.

ORLY?

[M Paquette]

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Originally Posted by Big_Hitter ORLY?

Yes, really.

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/encore/...ment-rankings/

Here are the top 20 (along with their 2013 rankings):

Switzerland (2)
Norway (1)
Austria (5)
Sweden (4)
Australia (11)
Denmark (8)
Germany (9)
Finland (6)
New Zealand (22)
Luxembourg (3)
Iceland (23)
Belgium (14)
The Netherlands (7)
Canada (13)
France (10)
Czech Republic (17)
South Korea (27)
United Kingdom (20)
United States (19)
Israel (12)



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[Big_Hitter]

^ that's not due to healthcare or longevity - they have very generous tier 1 and 2 social pensions and socialized medicine


i.e. lots of social (and very high taxes)


the access to top quality healthcare in this country is second to none, if you can afford it, our life expectancy at birth may be lower due to lack of socialized medicine


I'd still rather retire in the US.

[Meadbh]

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Originally Posted by Big_Hitter ^ that's not due to healthcare or longevity - they have very generous tier 1 and 2 social pensions and socialized medicine i.e. lots of social (and very high taxes) the access to top quality healthcare in this country is second to none, if you can afford it, our life expectancy at birth may be lower due to lack of socialized medicine I'd still rather retire in the US.

Health services are way down the list of determinants of health and life expectancy.

WHO | The determinants of health

[NW-Bound]

So, you are saying that the US's throwing more money at healthcare is not going to help?

[Big_Hitter]

We have a lot of poor people in this country that skew our score.


The higher scoring countries don't.

[razztazz]

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the access to top quality healthcare in this country is second to none, if you can afford it

Dissonant statement. Access to to quality healthcare in this country is non-existent unless you can afford it. ie Access to top quality health care is shaky and/or limited to almost everyone. Available under fortuitous circumstances only.

[haha]

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Originally Posted by Big_Hitter We have a lot of poor people in this country that skew our score. The higher scoring countries don't.

Yes, it is bizarre to compare the US to Switzerland for example. Maybe compare Scarsdale, SF, Manhattan etc. to Switzerland.

These comparisons always have an agenda, and it is usually redistributionist.

Ha

[ExFlyBoy5]

I am pretty happy with my healthcare in the states, but we visit an island off the coast of Mexico fairly often and there is an "island doctor" on call 24/7. I have never called him, but as I understand it, he costs about $25 to come to you...and that's pretty sweet.

[razztazz]

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, he costs about $25 to come to you...and that's pretty sweet.

How much does it cost if he actually has to do anything for you?

[Big_Hitter]

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Originally Posted by haha These comparisons always have an agenda, and it is usually redistributionist. Ha

that was my take on the article

[explanade]

Switzerland is a wealthy but small country.

However, US lags other countries in life expectancy and most of these have lower per capita GDP than the US, such as the UK, France, Germany, etc.