Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Good day for a limit order?
Old 02-10-2017, 09:39 PM   #1
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Boho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
Good day for a limit order?

I inherited a mutual fund from an account that was managed by someone else and I want different investments now. I feel like the market is right for a limit order. I'm considering selling the fund (first I'll make sure it rose with the market somewhat) and holding the cash while the limit order is in progress. I'd be trying to buy an index fund. Um...what do you think?

I'm afraid of that question, so here's another one for the sake of diversifying. I'm looking for a good graph of the S&P 500 or whatever other index you think is good for determining when the market is up and down. Preferably one that lets you compare it with the history of any fund you choose. I like the ones with the sliding things to set date limits, but I'll use the keyboard to punch in dates if necessary. What's a good one? I can't even find one at the moment.
Boho is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 02-10-2017, 09:45 PM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,844
PerfCharts | Free Charts | StockCharts.com

I think you are overthinking this and should just sell and not worry about daily fluctuations but there is a link for Stock CHarts.com that does what you want
Running_Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2017, 10:03 PM   #3
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Boho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Running_Man View Post
PerfCharts | Free Charts | StockCharts.com

I think you are overthinking this and should just sell and not worry about daily fluctuations but there is a link for Stock CHarts.com that does what you want
Perfect. I bookmarked http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?$spx
Boho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2017, 10:48 PM   #4
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Boho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Running_Man View Post
just sell
I sold. "A sales charge of up to 1.00% may apply."

Wish I knew what I'm going to buy.
Boho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2017, 11:55 PM   #5
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Boho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
OK, I know now. Fidelity NASDAQ Composite Index Tracking Stock Fund - ONEQ. I'll place the limit order when the old fund is sold unless I change my mind.
Boho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 04:57 AM   #6
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
DrRoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,003
What you are proposing seems too much like attempted market timing to me. I suggest that you just buy in at fixed intervals over a few months, or put your limit order out there for just a portion and go with the intervals for the rest.
__________________
"The mountains are calling, and I must go." John Muir
DrRoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 06:01 AM   #7
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,252
Today is a good day to work on an investment plan.

I recommend Larry Swedroe's book for help with this:
The Only Guide You'll Ever Need for the Right Financial Plan: Managing Your Wealth, Risk, and Investments

For market timing, please follow LOL!'s Market Timing Newsletter. Here is a link to how it works: http://www.early-retirement.org/foru...ml#post1787189
LOL! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 09:27 AM   #8
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
target2019's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: On a hill in the Pine Barrens
Posts: 9,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boho View Post
I inherited a mutual fund from an account that was managed by someone else and I want different investments now. I feel like the market is right for a limit order. I'm considering selling the fund (first I'll make sure it rose with the market somewhat) and holding the cash while the limit order is in progress. I'd be trying to buy an index fund. Um...what do you think?

I'm afraid of that question, so here's another one for the sake of diversifying. I'm looking for a good graph of the S&P 500 or whatever other index you think is good for determining when the market is up and down. Preferably one that lets you compare it with the history of any fund you choose. I like the ones with the sliding things to set date limits, but I'll use the keyboard to punch in dates if necessary. What's a good one? I can't even find one at the moment.
What are the two funds?
target2019 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 09:32 AM   #9
Full time employment: Posting here.
Whisper66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 958
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boho View Post
OK, I know now. Fidelity NASDAQ Composite Index Tracking Stock Fund - ONEQ. I'll place the limit order when the old fund is sold unless I change my mind.
You've been bitten already by one high fee (1% for selling last asset). Learn quickly that the impact of fees is quite important over time. So one thing that is always worth doing is asking yourself why not go with similar fund with lower fees.

I don't know Fidelity Funds but Vanguard Growth Index Admiral Share Mutual Fund is close to the ETF you are looking at. Vanguard fees = 0.08% (no bid/ask spread, no 12b or other fees). Much lower fees than the Fideleity one you are buying which has fees of 0.21%. And since ONEQ is an ETF, you will also pay some $$ on the bid/asking spread. The two funds track pretty closely, see graph here to compare.

If you prefer ETF's, the above mutual fund is available as an ETF as well with 0.08% fee. See VUG .

If you buy the above funds from a Vanguard account, those fees are correct. If you buy them through another company (Fidelity), I expect you will have added fees since these are not their funds. Also, I think Admiral share fees are available only with a Vanguard account.

Many of us track our fees over time....they really do add up to significant amounts once your portfolio takes off after several years. Good to get a good handle on them early.
Whisper66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 09:36 AM   #10
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 8,971
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisper66 View Post
You've been bitten already by one high fee (1% for selling last asset). Learn quickly that the impact of fees is quite important over time. So one thing that is always worth doing is asking yourself why not go with similar fund with lower fees.

I don't know Fidelity Funds but Vanguard Growth Index Admiral Share Mutual Fund is close to the ETF you are looking at. Vanguard fees = 0.08% (no bid/ask spread, no 12b or other fees). Much lower fees than the Fideleity one you are buying which has fees of 0.21%. And since ONEQ is an ETF, you will also pay some $$ on the bid/asking spread. The two funds track pretty closely, see graph here to compare.

If you prefer ETF's, the above mutual fund is available as an ETF as well with 0.08% fee. See VUG .

If you buy the above funds from a Vanguard account, those fees are correct. If you buy them through another company (Fidelity), I expect you will have added fees since these are not their funds. Also, I think Admiral share fees are available only with a Vanguard account.

Many of us track our fees over time....they really do add up to significant amounts once your portfolio takes off after several years. Good to get a good handle on them early.
ONEQ is a commission free, transaction free security at FIDO.
.21% fees.
COcheesehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 09:46 AM   #11
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 8,971
FIDO should also get you some share price improvement at the time of the transaction. They always have for me, even if it's just a buck or two.
COcheesehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 10:35 AM   #12
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Boho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by target2019 View Post
What are the two funds?
One was FCISX which I already ordered to be sold. The status is "open" and I don't see the cash in my account yet. I'll use some of the cash to buy ONEQ and the rest for other things.

I also want to sell OAAAX which is in my inherited IRA but that one seems to have been transferred to me only yesterday and the value didn't show until today and I still can't sell it for some reason. I get the error "Error: 017976 The position to Sell was not found or not available." I want to completely exchange that fund for ONEQ.
Boho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 05:14 PM   #13
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Laurel, MD
Posts: 8,327
Quote:
Originally Posted by COcheesehead View Post
ONEQ is a commission free, transaction free security at FIDO.
.21% fees.


I'm looking at ONEQ also. I think it has a different profile than the VG Growth Index fund mentioned.
__________________
...with no reasonable expectation for ER, I'm just here auditing the AP class.Retired 8/1/15.
jazz4cash is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WellsTrade unauthorized reduction of good till canceled buy order HpRyder Active Investing, Market Strategies & Alternative Assets 10 09-10-2016 11:05 AM
Credit card limit increases - good, bad? steelyman FIRE and Money 18 09-28-2013 05:14 PM
Order in which to withdraw funds smooch FIRE and Money 10 06-05-2005 07:00 PM
Chief economist for Mortgage Bankers Assn sells home in order to rent cute fuzzy bunny FIRE and Money 14 06-01-2005 03:04 PM
Check out this Almost Perfect Postal Money Order.. Cut-Throat Other topics 6 04-24-2005 05:53 AM

» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:29 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.