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08-23-2015, 09:30 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Ormond Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fermion
Wrong. This is like a forum of players who get a cheap room at the casino, eat the free buffet and only bet the $10 free chip on the don't pass line then leave the tables if they win or lose the free bet.
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+1000. LOL, defines me to a T.
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08-23-2015, 12:57 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2007
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While I was driving my son to his girlfriend's house this morning we talked about the market drop. He asked me if I was buying (lesson learned!), but also said that his girlfriend's dad was talking about selling stocks Friday night. Wisely, he said nothing (another lesson learned!).
Best to ignore the noise. The drop so far has been small. It'll be interesting once it's a full blown correction.
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08-23-2015, 01:20 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2005
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So glad I put everything into an Allianz 360 annuity last week . My insurance sales rep even called me from the golf course this mourning to assure me everything is on track.
Those " cant loose " toxic products like 360 should be outlawed IMO
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08-23-2015, 01:29 PM
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#44
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lakewood90712
My insurance sales rep even called me from the golf course this mourning...
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Nice wordplay...
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08-23-2015, 03:15 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Chattanooga
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Reversion to the mean, no big deal.
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08-23-2015, 06:46 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 168
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Nikkei down over 2% in first hour of trading. Looks like a rocky Monday
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Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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08-23-2015, 06:55 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: May 2013
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Lost a bunch last week. DW retired last month so I asked her if she was nervous. I wanted to know if I needed to walk her through the numbers again to ease her mind.
Her answer? "I don't think we could lose enough for me to go back to work."
Made me smile...
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08-24-2015, 06:41 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crispus
Nikkei down over 2% in first hour of trading. Looks like a rocky Monday
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Hold on to your hat .. it's going to be a rough (or fun) ride!
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08-24-2015, 06:52 AM
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It looks like we are back in 2008 crises (I hope that I am wrong). If pull out of equities now before the Market reach the bottom, there is a heavy Taxation similar to losses what I face if staying put.
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08-24-2015, 06:59 AM
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#50
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VFK57
It looks like we are back in 2008 crises...
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I don't see it.
Unlike 08, there is no major financial crisis causing the market panic. This is a crisis of confidence as the result of a multi-year run up in stock prices. By comparison, it "should" reach bottom reasonably soon - but that doesn't mean it won't be ugly.
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08-24-2015, 07:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REWahoo
I don't see it.
Unlike 08, there is no major financial crisis causing the market panic. This is a crisis of confidence as the result of a multi-year run up in stock prices. By comparison, it "should" reach bottom reasonably soon - but that doesn't mean it won't be ugly.
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There is a high level threat of financial crises due to the oil prices dramatic drop. Our oil industry is heavily indebted and with low oil prices they will not be able to repay $$ billions to their lenders, many oil companies cannot even operate at oil prices below $40 per barrel.
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08-24-2015, 07:20 AM
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#52
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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I think the oil price issue, while disruptive, is relatively small potatoes compared to what happened to banking/financial systems in 08.
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08-24-2015, 07:21 AM
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#53
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: New Orleans
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If this turns into a major crash, well, most of us have "been there done that" and know that while it isn't fun, there is money to be made by investing low.
Meanwhile, I am hoping for a "blue light special" on Wall Street today, since I was planning to invest the money I just got from selling my paid off house. My plan is to invest half of it today and DCA the rest.
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08-24-2015, 07:23 AM
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#54
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 437
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Not a good idea to try and catch falling knives. I have about 5% in cash that I'm looking to put back in the market when it settles down a bit.
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08-24-2015, 07:25 AM
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gone traveling
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: DFW
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It goes to show you that W2R is clairvoyant again. I always get a laugh out of this pic:
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08-24-2015, 07:33 AM
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#56
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: New Orleans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DFW_M5
It goes to show you that W2R is clairvoyant again. I always get a laugh out of this pic:
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I love that pic! I'm hoping that you are right about me being clairvoyant because my nestegg could use a nice boost after buying my dream house this summer.
Maybe because I am on Social Security this time, with a paid off home as well as lower expenses due to being retired, the idea of a major crash honestly doesn't bother me NEARLY as much as it did in 2008. We'll all be fine. Those of us who have "been there, done that" can remind the others that it isn't the end of the world.
I like having a nice cash cushion to invest during such a crash so I'm all set in that respect.
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08-24-2015, 07:35 AM
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#57
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Dryer sheet aficionado
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Hey Gents, Ladies, just checking in again and thought I'd post due to recent market numbers. This forum is great for when the sky falls excitement. This is definitely enough dip of 10%+ so can't be as easily ignored.
This time last year actually but wasn't as bad so mostly went unnoticed. S&P was 2019 on 19 SEP 2014. It dipped below 1817 on 16 OCT 2014 to close at 1886.
I'll admit every time it dips hard it looks sketchy. But I'm looking to buy more near bottom. I've a couple funds that rebound hard when it happens so probably squeeze on more there.
Watching for another day or three for the sales event. Keep your sweaty hands dry for the keyboards.
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08-24-2015, 07:38 AM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
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It's times like this that makes me glad I only have about 15% of my savings in equities.
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08-24-2015, 07:45 AM
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#59
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M Paquette
Meh. Wake me when it's 20% off the high. I might need to rebalance...
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Over half way there now!
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08-24-2015, 07:45 AM
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Yikes, the Dow is down 939 points in the first 7 minutes! OK, that's it, I'm pretty excited.
This summer I moved to my "dream home" which (as you probably guessed) is nicer and more expensive than my old house. When you add in the cost of moving, maintaining two houses for a month and a half before closing on the sale of my old house, upgrading some things in my dream home, paying closing costs, and so on, the total cost of this moving escapade came to around $65K.
I'd love to make that much back by buying low! Oh rats, while I wrote this post the Dow rose to where it is only down 662 points.
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