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Old 05-27-2008, 05:51 PM   #21
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Growth stocks tend to represent startup firms which need to plough every cent back into R&D. They have no business issuing dividends at this stage in their development. When they grow up, growth stocks will become dividend stocks. Mature firms with cash cows can and should issue dividends. If they are trading only on past glories, those dividends will eventually end as the firm's products become obsolete and unmarketable. But an established firm with a strong market which is always looking out to innovate may be able to balance its value to customers and value to shareholders.

I think all portfolios need a mixture of growth and dividend stocks.
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Old 05-27-2008, 08:48 PM   #22
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David Einhorn, president of Greenlight Capital, discusses his long-running battle with Allied Capital and his new book Fooling Some of the People All of the Time:
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I ordered this book last week. Einhorn is smart.

BTW, it may be that GE at $30.xx and a yield of 4+% is pretty good. Today I sold some TIPS and bought GE. Down in safety, but IMO up in potential reward over time. GE gets a lot of earnings from non-US sources. GE gets a lot of earnings from infrastucture and alternate energy. GE is restucturing.

I could see GE becoming much more popular with investors before too awfully long

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Old 05-27-2008, 11:46 PM   #23
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I've owned Enbridge Energy Partners - EEP - for years, fairly stable,
now paying 7.5%
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Thanks to everyone for ideas. I bought APU, but keep the ideas coming, I'm always looking for more.

BTW, EEP looks nice also.
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Thanks to everyone for ideas. I bought APU, but keep the ideas coming, I'm always looking for more.

BTW, EEP looks nice also.
I am sure you know, but for others who may not, APU and EEP are MLPs, not common stock.

This may involve complications with record keeping and tax filing; and sometimes they are not suitable for inclusion in untaxed accounts or tax deferred accounts.

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I ordered this book last week. Einhorn is smart.

BTW, it may be that GE at $30.xx and a yield of 4+% is pretty good. Today I sold some TIPS and bought GE. Down in safety, but IMO up in potential reward over time. GE gets a lot of earnings from non-US sources. GE gets a lot of earnings from infrastucture and alternate energy. GE is restucturing.

I could see GE becoming much more popular with investors before too awfully long

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Hopefully you are correct. I already own a little. Slightly down over my purchase price, but plan to hold for the long term.
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Hopefully you are correct. I already own a little. Slightly down over my purchase price, but plan to hold for the long term.
Be of good cheer, Dawg. We are in good company.

GE Insider Trading - General Electric Co - SecForm4.Com

BTW, I ditched some oil related stocks today and over the past few days. Amazing how rapid the recent run-up has been- many of my holdings with very good gains are still short term, mostly bought or added to last August.

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We are in good company. Here is one that I have had good luck with over the few weeks I have owned it. Still has a 9% yield and is listed as a 5 star rated stock by S&P, whatever that's worth.

CZN: Summary for CITIZEN COMM CO - Yahoo! Finance
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A bit volatile but, DSX/Diana Shipping at 11%+ divy rate. It's a drybulk shipping company with very low debt.
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Baring a big rally it looks like my GE 32.50 puts will be exercised next week. Normally, I am somewhat bummed when my puts get exercised. (Only somewhat because I write puts only for stocks I want to own and specific prices.) However, in the case of GE I'm actually quite please to own the premier growth company in the US for the last century or so. The stock price has been flat for the last decade, but both earnings and dividends have increased at high single digit growth during this time.

With a 4.3% yield, all the company has to do is raise dividends at the rate of inflation to sustain a 4% SWR and since it has historically raised dividends at more than 2x inflation...

BTW, I think writing puts is another way to purchase GE, since there is a good premium. $1.80 for at the money ($29) Sept put or 1.20 for a longer out of the money put Jan 25.
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How does WWE look at 15.17 paying 9.40? Wrestling seems to more popular than ever.
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Have you considered Close End Funds and income ETFs?

Take a look at DGF, DEX, INB, FOF, JNK, DPD, JGT , LVL, NAI, TTO.

All of these yield between 8.4% to 12%, pay out monthly and offer automatic dividend reinvestment.
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