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Old 09-23-2016, 02:10 AM   #1
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Current bull market is the 3rd longest ever, 89 months and up 185%. If we can go to next March, it will be longest ever, although the 1921-29 market went up almost 500%.

What, me worry?
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:06 AM   #2
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Looking back, sure am glad I decided to throw a big chunk of cash into the market in 2010 that had been sitting idle. Probably the best financial decision I've ever made. Even when we get the inevitable correction, hard to complain about 7 straight years of generally good performance.
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continuous bull market? NOT!!! I moved 359k to s&p500 acct. lost 38k in two months. it has taken me a year to make it back, just now breaking even after 18 months. so i had a big bear in the middle of my bull.
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continuous bull market? NOT!!! I moved 359k to s&p500 acct. lost 38k in two months. it has taken me a year to make it back, just now breaking even after 18 months. so i had a big bear in the middle of my bull.
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Markets are not usually defined by individual results.
Agreed. Doesn't it take a recession, to determine the end of a bull market? And I believe a recession is counted as two consecutive quarters of negative growth?

in my case, I did well in 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2013. Lost a little in 2011. 2014 was mediocre. 2015 was almost flat. 2016 has been good, so far.

But, if you plot it out on a graph, even though it's jagged, the line has been trending up. I had a quick dip in 2011 where I dropped about 14% in a month, but still ended the year down only about $1000. I heard the market did a quick 10% correction in late 2014, but I guess I'm diversified enough that it didn't hurt me that bad. Or maybe it fixed itself quickly enough that my records don't show it, as I only keep data from the last trading day of the month.

And, I think there was a point early this year where I might have been about 9-10% off a peak in 2015, but again, it corrected fairly fast.
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Agreed. Doesn't it take a recession, to determine the end of a bull market? And I believe a recession is counted as two consecutive quarters of negative growth?

in my case, I did well in 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2013. Lost a little in 2011. 2014 was mediocre. 2015 was almost flat. 2016 has been good, so far.

But, if you plot it out on a graph, even though it's jagged, the line has been trending up. I had a quick dip in 2011 where I dropped about 14% in a month, but still ended the year down only about $1000. I heard the market did a quick 10% correction in late 2014, but I guess I'm diversified enough that it didn't hurt me that bad. Or maybe it fixed itself quickly enough that my records don't show it, as I only keep data from the last trading day of the month.

And, I think there was a point early this year where I might have been about 9-10% off a peak in 2015, but again, it corrected fairly fast.


Technically it does not require a recession.... it just means the index goes down 20%.... but that usually comes because of a recession...


Now, I do think it was close a time or two, but not sure how close...













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It has been a good ride last 89 months, although not a totally smooth one. Just like it has always been over the past 100 years in stock market. With some years better than others, some mid-term corrections (but below 20%), the overall avg return is good over a longer period. Probably the number one reason why some allocation with a fixed income portion is advised, along with diversification of the equities portion. I guess I don't get as concerned when playing on the house's money.
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Looking back, sure am glad I decided to throw a big chunk of cash into the market in 2010 that had been sitting idle. Probably the best financial decision I've ever made. Even when we get the inevitable correction, hard to complain about 7 straight years of generally good performance.

Me too. I have another chunk of cash that I wish I had put to work last year but I can't complain.


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I don't think a bull market is going to end because of a date. I think they end when sellers outnumber buyers over a period of time, and also generally at a relative high in bullish sentiment. I do not see that level of bullishness now. We have also recently broken above a near two year consolidation. The situation still seems favorable at present to me, but I am also not a market timer so I am not doing anything about it in either direction.
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Current bull market is the 3rd longest ever, 89 months and up 185%. If we can go to next March, it will be longest ever, although the 1921-29 market went up almost 500%.

What, me worry?
Eventually it's got to end. It always does. What goes up, must come down (and what goes down, always seems to come back up, too). As for the timing? I have no clue.

I am just so grateful to have had this bull market during the first seven years of my retirement. I probably owe my Dream Home to the bull market, because I don't think I would have dared go for it had things not been so ideal thus far.
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