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02-22-2018, 02:02 PM
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I agree that longer is better. It's been 608 days. That's all the farther back this particular experiment goes. I do plan to go to 5 years. Probably still not really long enough! Anyway, the first table has those 608 day results, that's as much as I have.
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02-22-2018, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsational
I agree that longer is better. It's been 608 days. That's all the farther back this particular experiment goes. I do plan to go to 5 years. Probably still not really long enough! Anyway, the first table has those 608 day results, that's as much as I have.
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Oh, I apologize. I missed that 608 day column. Sorry.
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04-19-2018, 12:54 PM
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Here's the current bi-monthly transaction result, and the picks for the next batch.
Well, At nearly 39% XIRR, this batch from last April far outstripped the small stock benchmarks, and the S&P. Still far shy of the benchmarks for the entire time span, however. But it's the best showing so far.
371 Days ending 04/19/2018 | XIRR for Apr 2017 batch | XIRR 664 days (all) | gain/loss (all) |
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Magic Formula Picks | 38.7% | 7.7% | $9991 | US Small Cap Value Index (CRSPSCVT) | 11.8% | 12.1% | $16840 | Vanguard Small-Cap ETF (VBR) | 11.7% | 12.1% | $16807 | Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) | 17.3% | 16.1% | $22435 |
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CRSPSCVT | 2121.61 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | 11.8% | Benchmark April 2018 Sale | VBR | 132.05 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | 11.7% | Benchmark April 2018 Sale | VOO | 246.29 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | 17.3% | Benchmark April 2018 Sale | BBSI | 88.93 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | 64.8% | April 2018 Sale | MCFT | 24.86 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | 56.1% | April 2018 Sale | PDLI | 2.88 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | 38.6% | April 2018 Sale | TVTY | 39.92 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | 41.5% | April 2018 Sale | UIS | 11.27 | 04/13/2017 13:36 | -0.4% | April 2018 Sale | ALL | | | 38.7% | April 2018 Sale |
And today's picks:
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CRSPSCVT | 2121.61 | 04/19/2018 12:16 | Benchmark | VBR | 132.05 | 04/19/2018 12:16 | Benchmark | VOO | 246.29 | 04/19/2018 12:16 | Benchmark | ESRX | 73.93 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | April 2018 Picks | EVC | 5.083 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | April 2018 Picks | MSB | 24.091 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | April 2018 Picks | NTRI | 29.08 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | April 2018 Picks | PBH | 30.592 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | April 2018 Picks |
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06-21-2018, 02:13 PM
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It's been 2 years since the first picks were posted.
As a reminder, what this thread seeks to test Goldblatt's "Magic Formula" process, as defined in his books "The Little Book that Beats the Market", and "The Little Book that Still Beats the Market".
Starting 2 years ago, stocks from his screen were randomly picked. These random picks continued every 2 months until there were 6 'batches'. Then, as each batch reached the age of one year, it was sold and replaced with other random picks.
So far, I have not proved nor disproved the premise of the books because he claims that it takes at least 3 years and might take 5 years to beat the market with this technique. Also what this thread seeks to test is if, rather than doing it yourself (buying the stocks), could you get the same result by just buying a fund that kind of matches the stocks that his screen picks (I've selected VBR fund and CRSPSCVT index, which have been tracking together very closely).
Below is the current bi-monthly transaction result, and the picks for the next batch.
Results this time show that the small stock benchmarks and the S&P, with around 15% XIRR, beat the picks from a year ago (they got around 10% XIRR). There have sets of picks that were quite disastrous, but this this set has a respectably positive return. The Magic Formula picks still havel a long way to go to catch-up for the entire time span; their return is only about 2/3's of the default S&P 500.
728 Days ending 06/21/2018 | XIRR for Jun 2016 batch | XIRR 727 days (all) | gain/loss (all) |
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Magic Formula Picks | 10.4% | 11.1% | $16246 | US Small Cap Value Index (CRSPSCVT) | 16.6% | 14.4% | $22838 | Vanguard Small-Cap ETF (VBR) | 16.6% | 14.4% | $22839 | Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) | 15.4% | 16.3% | $25903 |
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CRSPSCVT | 2234.46 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | 16.6% | Benchmark June 2018 Sale | VBR | 139.12 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | 16.6% | Benchmark June 2018 Sale | VOO | 253.54 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | 15.4% | Benchmark June 2018 Sale | AMCX | 65.27 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | 19.6% | June 2018 Sale | AMN | 60.55 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | 65.4% | June 2018 Sale | DLX | 67.58 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | -0.7% | June 2018 Sale | HRB | 23.45 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | -22.8% | June 2018 Sale | NHTC | 23.67 | 06/22/2017 13:25 | -8.1% | June 2018 Sale | ALL | | | 10.4% | June 2018 Sale |
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CRSPSCVT | 2234.46 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | Benchmark | VBR | 139.12 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | Benchmark | VOO | 253.54 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | Benchmark | ACOR | 30.00 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | IDCC | 83.95 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | KLAC | 110.27 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | TUP | 40.89 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | WDC | 81.83 | 06/21/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks |
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06-22-2018, 04:59 AM
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Would be interesting to see what happens in a down market.
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06-22-2018, 10:20 AM
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Paul Merriman advocates a small/large cap "all value" portfolio, but note the higher risk required for the higher return:
https://paulmerriman.com/wp-content/...rns-Update.pdf
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08-16-2018, 02:23 PM
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The August batch beat the market this time, coming in at 37.1% IRR. All 5 were winners. This scheme would need a lot more batches like this to catch up!
364 Days ending 08/16/2018 | XIRR for Aug 2016 batch | XIRR 783 days (all) | gain/loss (all) |
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Magic Formula Picks | 37.1% | 10.2% | $16652 | US Small Cap Value Index (CRSPSCVT) | 19.1% | 13.8% | $24289 | Vanguard Small-Cap ETF (VBR) | 19.1% | 13.9% | $24315 | Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) | 18.7% | 17.1% | $30207 |
There was an early sale due to a buyout (TIME). The cash from that went into the next batch of buying. This batch got all the cash flows associated with it, but the batches can swap funds in cases like this.
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CRSPSCVT | 2261.76 | 08/17/2017 14:30 | 19.1% | Benchmark August 2018 Sale | VBR | 140.33 | 08/17/2017 14:30 | 19.1% | Benchmark August 2018 Sale | VOO | 261.47 | 08/17/2017 14:30 | 17.1% | Benchmark August 2018 Sale | MD | 46.57 | 08/17/2017 14:30 | 10.0% | August 2018 Sale | NATH | 89.66 | 08/17/2017 14:30 | 65.7% | August 2018 Sale | TIME | 18.50 | 02/02/2018 00:00 | 126.4% | Buyout | TRNC | 17.19 | 08/17/2017 14:30 | 30.7% | August 2018 Sale | VIAB | 30.58 | 08/17/2017 14:30 | 6.2% | August 2018 Sale | ALL | | | 37.1% | August 2018 Sale |
Random picks this time:
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CRSPSCVT | 2261.76 | 08/16/2018 13:00 | Benchmark | VBR | 140.33 | 08/16/2018 13:00 | Benchmark | VOO | 261.47 | 08/16/2018 13:00 | Benchmark | AEIS | 59.40 | 08/16/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | CASA | 12.11 | 08/16/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | DXC | 87.15 | 08/16/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | MIK | 20.24 | 08/16/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks | SGH | 29.57 | 08/16/2018 13:30 | June 2018 Picks |
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10-10-2018, 03:01 PM
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The October batch has come in negative; down over 6%. This rather unlucky October batch also was down about 6% last year.
370 Days ending 10/10/2018 | XIRR for Oct 2016 batch | XIRR 838 days (all) | gain/loss (all) |
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Magic Formula Picks | -6.8% | 7.1% | $12277 | US Small Cap Value Index (CRSPSCVT) | 5.8% | 12.7% | $24289 | Vanguard Small-Cap ETF (VBR) | 5.9% | 13.0% | $24990 | Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) | 13.2% | 15.9% | $30776 |
The small cap value also has fallen away significantly from the S&P 500 in the last couple of months.
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CRSPSCVT | 2178.80 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | 5.8% | Benchmark October 2018 Sale | VBR | 134.44 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | 5.9% | Benchmark October 2018 Sale | VOO | 260.50 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | 13.2% | Benchmark October 2018 Sale | ABC | 92.61 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | 11.5% | October 2018 Sale | AGX | 42.69 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | -34.8% | October 2018 Sale | GHC | 572.98 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | -0.4% | October 2018 Sale | IPG | 22.64 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | 10.2% | October 2018 Sale | NLS | 13.32 | 10/05/2017 15:06 | -22.3% | October 2018 Sale | ALL | | | -6.8% | October 2018 Sale |
Random picks this time included one OTC issue (CJREF), which I've never seen come up before.
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CRSPSCVT | 2178.8 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | Benchmark | VBR | 134.44 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | Benchmark | VOO | 260.5 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | Benchmark | CJREF | 3.32 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | October 2018 Picks | FTSI | 12.37 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | October 2018 Picks | NKTR | 50.37 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | October 2018 Picks | SRNE | 3.71 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | October 2018 Picks | STX | 44.02 | 10/10/2018 11:46 | October 2018 Picks |
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10-10-2018, 03:46 PM
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Considering reversion to the mean, I'm amazed that this "Magic Formula" can be this far from the indexes at 2+ years. It is rather magical, just not in the direction you want!
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10-11-2018, 08:42 AM
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Well, we're not done yet.
If it consistently underperforms, we also have a winning strategy btw.
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10-11-2018, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
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Well, we're not done yet.
If it consistently underperforms, we also have a winning strategy btw.
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Just my luck, it would start 'working' then!
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10-11-2018, 10:00 AM
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Goldblatt was clear that it would take at least 3 years, and maybe 5. That's not saying I'm not skeptical, because I am. I've always been, which is why I'm trying to settle the matter as best I can through this thread. But we still have a while to go.
I think the reason it's lagging is that the equities market has been so strong since the start of the experiment. The stocks from the filter are already beaten down, so they might distinguish themselves by not going down as much if the whole market takes a beating. Of course that's a sad way to "beat the market", but that point was made stronger in the second edition, where he said beating the market doesn't always mean making a good return.
Bottom line take away so far for me is that luck has a lot to do with it. If I could start over, I'd do three separate experiments and see how widely they diverged.
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10-11-2018, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
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Goldblatt was clear that it would take at least 3 years, and maybe 5. ....
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That seems odd. Why would an approach take "at least three years"? Sure, a certain strategy might do better in a certain market phase (bull, bear, flat, or other condition), but why couldn't that phase happen right at the start of the experiment? I'm having trouble with that.
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... Bottom line take away so far for me is that luck has a lot to do with it. If I could start over, I'd do three separate experiments and see how widely they diverged.
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There you go. And I would hope that if you ran three experiments, at least one of them would beat the market over the time frame of the experiment. But where would that leave you? What actionable item could you take from that (sorry for the MegaCorp speak!)
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10-11-2018, 10:39 AM
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If the three we're highly divergent and generally not beating risk adjusted returns, then the action would be to avoid the magic formula. If the results were more tightly grouped, then that would say luck had less to do with it and 30 issues is enough. If grouped and ahead of the appropriate index, then the scheme "worked" and luck was not a large factor.
As to the 3 to 5 years, I think it is indeed a way to allow the scheme to run in various market conditions, but since I got the book from the library, I can't see exactly what he said about it.
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10-11-2018, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
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That seems odd. Why would an approach take "at least three years"? ...
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Doesn't seem odd to me. Consider:
- Over any relatively short period, the performance of a diversified portfolio approximates a random walk.
- Over any relatively long period of time (maybe 5+ years) a diversified portfolio will exhibit a slight bias towards growth, something approximating the market's overall bias as observed in many decades of history.
So the longer he waits, the more likely it is that the market will bail him out regardless of what "magic" is in the portfolio. Smart strategy.
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12-14-2018, 01:36 PM
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The December batch came in just a tiny bit positive, ahead of the small cap indexes for past 12 month span. The 1.4% just happened to match the overall performance of the scheme since inception. Pretty sad state of affairs, making only 1/10th of the amount the index made over the 903 days since the start of the experiment.
We are half way through the experiment (5 years is about 1800 days). This scheme would have to really up it's game to come close to any of the benchmarks! I have very little confidence that this scheme is going to "beat the market".
The small cap indexes took a beating in this span compared to the S&P 500; they've diverged more than any earlier 12 month span that I've tracked (on the order of 15% this time, whereas the worst we've seen is 7% or 10% or something before).
365 Days ending 12/14/2018 | XIRR for Dec 2016 batch | XIRR 903 days (all) | gain/loss (all) |
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Magic Formula Picks | 1.4% | 1.4% | $2481 | US Small Cap Value Index (CRSPSCVT) | -5.8% | 11.5% | $24289 | Vanguard Small-Cap ETF (VBR) | -5.7% | 11.9% | $24990 | Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) | 8.5% | 14.5% | $30776 |
Here are the details for closing out the 12 month positions:
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CRSPSCVT | 1957.83 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | -5.8% | Benchmark December 2018 Sale | VBR | 120.74 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | -5.7% | Benchmark December 2018 Sale | VOO | 240.24 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | 8.5% | Benchmark December 2018 Sale | CNCE | 13.75 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | -47.6% | December 2018 Sale | DISCA | 28.05 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | 39.2% | December 2018 Sale | SP | 28.26 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | -26.7% | December 2018 Sale | USNA | 121.49 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | 68.6% | December 2018 Sale | UTHR | 108.51 | 12/14/2017 14:25 | -19.8% | December 2018 Sale | ALL | | | 1.4% | December 2018 Sale |
Here are the random picks this time:
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CRSPSCVT | 1957.83 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | Benchmark | VBR | 120.74 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | Benchmark | VOO | 240.24 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | Benchmark | EAF | 12.04 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | December 2018 Picks | HEAR | 16.40 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | December 2018 Picks | NANO | 28.39 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | December 2018 Picks | PETS | 22.99 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | December 2018 Picks | TUSK | 19.38 | 12/14/2018 14:00 | December 2018 Picks |
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02-21-2019, 03:14 PM
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The batch bought last February and held for a year did quite well, beating all of the indexes handily. But since the start of the experiment, the magic formula picks returned only half of what the aligned benchmark returned and only a bit better than a third of the large cap benchmark. The long run is what counts, but these occasional wins are keeping the scheme from falling completely flat.
There was a buyout where CPLA stock was exchanged for cash and STRA stock. All of those transactions were joined to calculate the rate of return.
364 Days ending 02/21/2019 | XIRR for Feb 2017 batch | XIRR 972 days (all) | gain/loss (all) |
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Magic Formula Picks | 25.2% | 4.9% | $10320 | US Small Cap Value Index (CRSPSCVT) | 3.3% | 8.5% | $19266 | Vanguard Small-Cap ETF (VBR) | 3.3% | 8.5% | $19267 | Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) | 4.3% | 12.3% | $28577 |
Ticker | Executed price 2/2019 | Sale Date | Buy Date | XIRR | |
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CRSPSCVT | 2167.25 | 02/21/2019 | 02/22/2018 | 3.3% | Benchmark February 2019 Sale | VBR | 132.68 | 02/21/2019 | 02/22/2018 | 3.3% | Benchmark February 2019 Sale | VOO | 255.50 | 02/21/2019 | 02/22/2018 | 4.3% | Benchmark February 2019 Sale | BPT | 26.43 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | 02/22/2018 | 59.3% | February 2019 Sale | CPLA | 108.38 | 08/01/2018 | 02/22/2018 | 41.4% | February 2019 Sale | EGOV | 17.45 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | 02/22/2018 | 28.8% | February 2019 Sale | OMC | 75.48 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | 02/22/2018 | 0.1% | February 2019 Sale | VEC | 28.34 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | 02/22/2018 | -0.6% | February 2019 Sale | STRA | 125.13 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | 02/22/2018 | (in CPLA) | February 2019 Sale | | | | | | | ALL | | | | 25.2% | February 2019 Sale |
The random picks this time:
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CRSPSCVT | 2167.25 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | Benchmark | VBR | 132.68 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | Benchmark | VOO | 255.5 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | Benchmark | ALSN | 49.82 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | February 2019 Picks | FNJN | 3.24 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | February 2019 Picks | FRSH | 5.37 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | February 2019 Picks | LTRPA | 15.99 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | February 2019 Picks | SYX | 24.60 | 02/21/2019 13:00 | February 2019 Picks |
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02-21-2019, 08:48 PM
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The screen on magicformulainvesting.com gave me a list of 50 stocks that ranked the highest on Goldblatt's valuation technique. I pasted those into a spreadsheet, typed =Rand() in the adjacent column and sorted the list. So, yes, using a computer and applying a mechanical, repeatable process.
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Well, we're not done yet.
If it consistently underperforms, we also have a winning strategy btw.
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Perhaps the Rand() that sengsational uses is a snakebit one.
Instead of using it to choose stocks to buy, how about shorting the chosen stocks and going long the S&P? One makes a lot of money with the arbitrage.
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04-18-2019, 04:00 PM
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The batch selected last April fared quite well, at 11.2% as compared to the indexes, which were in the 3% to 6% range. I'm not going to try to boho the situation...one batch does not make a success; the S&P index has returned more than three times as much cash!
364 Days ending 04/18/2019 | XIRR for Apr 2017 batch | XIRR 1028 days (all) | gain/loss (all) |
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Magic Formula Picks | 11.2% | 4.4% | $9642 | US Small Cap Value Index (CRSPSCVT) | 2.2% | 8.0% | $19418 | Vanguard Small-Cap ETF (VBR) | 2.8% | 8.0% | $19589 | Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) | 5.8% | 13.6% | $34467 |
There were a few buyouts, so I combined all cash flows associated with the original purchase into one bucket for measurement purposes:
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CRSPSCVT | 2170.11 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | 2.2% | Benchmark April 2019 Sale | VBR | 132.21 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | 2.8% | Benchmark April 2019 Sale | VOO | 266.16 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | 5.8% | Benchmark April 2019 Sale | ESRX | 96.85 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | 18.8% | April 2019 Sale | EVC | 2.99 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | -38.0% | April 2019 Sale | MSB | 30.88 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | 42.5% | April 2019 Sale | NTRI | 42.66 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | 58.1% | April 2019 Sale | PBH | 28.10 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | -8.2% | April 2019 Sale | CI | 148.91 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | reported with ESRX | April 2019 Sale | TVTY | 20.03 | 04/19/2018 12:50 | reported with NTRI | April 2019 Sale | ALL | | | 11.2% | April 2019 Sale |
Aaaaand.... this time the bewitched @rand() function helped me find:
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CRSPSCVT | 2170.11 | 04/18/2019 15:40 | Benchmark | VBR | 132.21 | 04/18/2019 15:40 | Benchmark | VOO | 266.16 | 04/18/2019 15:40 | Benchmark | AEZS | 4.29 | 04/18/2019 15:45 | April 2019 Picks | EGY | 2.47 | 04/18/2019 15:45 | April 2019 Picks | IMMR | 9.19 | 04/18/2019 15:45 | April 2019 Picks | SIGA | 5.34 | 04/18/2019 15:45 | April 2019 Picks | STRL | 13.80 | 04/18/2019 15:45 | April 2019 Picks |
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04-19-2019, 05:41 AM
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I'm not going to try to boho the situation...
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Thanks for keeping the reporting going!
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