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^^^ I just don't think it is correct.
The Debevoise paper is for a different animal where the holder receives more shares because the issuer has the option to pay dividends in-kind (not in cash) or to pay dividends by increasing the liquidation value on existing shares (but no cash)... uncommon provisions for the preferred stock that many of us are buying... and is different from the question that you asked.... which was relating to undeclared dividends in arrears for cumulative preferred stock.
Many of us have the PCG cumulative preferred stock where dividends have been suspended so many years are undeclared and in arrears.... I found this on their website:
From the Debevoise paper:
Also a nit: technically they are not "accrued, but unpaid" because the obligating event for the issuer to accrue a preferred stock dividend is declaration by the board of directors... they are just dividends in arrears. IOW, no accounting by the issuer until the declaration occurs and then when the declaration occurs record preferred stock dividends and a corresonding accrued dividends liability.
The Debevoise paper is for a different animal where the holder receives more shares because the issuer has the option to pay dividends in-kind (not in cash) or to pay dividends by increasing the liquidation value on existing shares (but no cash)... uncommon provisions for the preferred stock that many of us are buying... and is different from the question that you asked.... which was relating to undeclared dividends in arrears for cumulative preferred stock.
Many of us have the PCG cumulative preferred stock where dividends have been suspended so many years are undeclared and in arrears.... I found this on their website:
...Due to the dividend suspension of PG&E Corporation common stock and Pacific Gas and Electric Company preferred stock, effective December 20, 2017, no dividends were paid in 2018 or 2019; thus no 1099-DIV tax forms were issued for 2018 or 2019. ...
From the Debevoise paper:
The third way that phantom dividend income can be avoided - which also works whether or not the issuer has E&P – is to provide for an accumulating, compounding cash dividend that is payable only if it is declared by the board. Normally, a holder of preferred stock is not considered to receive a taxable dividend until the dividend is actually declared and paid by the issuing company. Even if dividends are allowed to accumulate and compound when not declared, the holder of the preferred stock generally is not considered to have current dividend income until the holder actually receives a cash dividend (or the preferred stock is exchanged for common stock). If the dividends are not actually paid in cash but are
instead added to the investor’s liquidation preference, the holder is generally in the same economic position as a holder of PIK preferred since the amount of common stock received
by the holder upon conversion of the preferred stock will typically be based on the increased liquidation preference.
Also a nit: technically they are not "accrued, but unpaid" because the obligating event for the issuer to accrue a preferred stock dividend is declaration by the board of directors... they are just dividends in arrears. IOW, no accounting by the issuer until the declaration occurs and then when the declaration occurs record preferred stock dividends and a corresonding accrued dividends liability.
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