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Old 08-31-2016, 12:25 PM   #21
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Someone here posted a few months ago that "from 20 feet away the upward market trend line is a pretty straight line over the past 50 years."
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Old 08-31-2016, 01:49 PM   #22
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Reality is DOW 20,000 is just around the bend.
Oh yeah?!? Time for some music then.

Here's "Up Around The Bend" by CCR. I am sure many posters here are old enough to recall this song.

Up Around The Bend

There's a place up ahead and I'm goin'
Just as fast as my feet can fly
Come away, come away if you're goin'
Leave the sinkin' ship behind

Come on the risin' wind,
We're goin' up around the bend...


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I guess we're gonna see something, sometime.
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They're not wrong, they're early. ��
That makes sense, since they were late on the last one...
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Everyone knows the stock market can't go up forever. We have had corrections since 2009. But if anyone actually knew what they were talking about they would be able to tell us when the downturn would happen and the severity of it. They can't do it. Why? Because they don't know. Don't we all know as much?
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I had a 46% return in my 401K in 2012. It's now worth double what it was at the beginning of 2012. My 401K has been all in equities since 1990 except for the past year when I've been moving part of my company stock in and out of cash on dips and spikes in share price. I'm about to get a little more conservative though.
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Buy the Haystack at the lowest possible cost and do nothing except 'just stand there.'

Of course you could wiki John C. Bogle and send him a Christmas or Birthday card once in a while.



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We'll poo-poo this until reality reasserts, which may not be long.

Then many members will disappear.

Which likely makes a difference mostly to them, but they will wonder what happened.

I saw a recent article(can't remember where. They are all meaningless) This article gave all sorts of reasons why high Shiller ratio, high S&P to GNP ratio, high price to sales and little growth don't matter. Either these ratios are meaningless, or are justified by very low interest rates. This is all crap, as we will find out in the fullness of time.

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We'll poo-poo this until reality reasserts, which may not be long.

Then many members will disappear.

Which likely makes a difference mostly to them, but they will wonder what happened.

I saw a recent article(can't remember where. They are all meaningless) This article gave all sorts of reasons why high Shiller ratio, high S&P to GNP ratio, high price to sales and little growth don't matter. Either these ratios are meaningless, or are justified by very low interest rates. This is all crap, as we will find out in the fullness of time.

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What is the "this" we are poo-pooing? I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just not sure which of the above comments you are referring to. The OP, who is mocking the experts opinion and implying that the market will continue up forever? Or the experts saying we are over valued? I agree with that one myself. Caution is healthy.
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When the markets get the shakes of even talk of a slight interest rate increase, I think they're overvalued, more so big dividend stocks than growth ones.
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Seems to me the media has a need to fill air and print columns. So they drag up experts, brokers etc. to spout off.

IMHO brokers don't care if the public buys or sells, as long as they can jolt them into buying or selling as often as possible.
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Ginned up negative news sells......
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