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Old 12-17-2017, 08:38 PM   #501
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So does your contest balance include trading costs?
Yes.

https://www.investopedia.com/univers...-buy-order.asp

"In order to simulate a real online trade, your play money account will be "charged" a commission of $19.99 per trade."

The rankings that we post are the account values including the trading costs. It's lower than $19.99 per trade though because we were able to change it to a modern value.
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The trading fee is $4.99 in the game, and it is subtracted.
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Old 12-19-2017, 03:08 AM   #503
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Is it an investing game or a trading game?
The two are mutually exclusive in my mind.
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I compare the contest to a marathon. Some are in it to win it. Others to finish without getting embarrassed. The strategy to use is whichever works best for the contestants to cross the finish line.
Why are we discussing the goal of the contest? It is literally called "Beat Boho". Can't make it much clearer than that.

Boho, you really need to put up more of a fight. This is like shooting fish in a barrel now.
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.... Boho, you really need to put up more of a fight. This is like shooting fish in a barrel now.
Yeah, didn't see that coming.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:00 AM   #505
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Boho, you really need to put up more of a fight. This is like shooting fish in a barrel now.
I just rose above $1,000,000 for the first time since 9/18/2017. Nunnun's $130,000 advantage isn't so scary.
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Yeah, didn't see that coming.
I don't think anyone saw it coming a few months ago. You'll not see it coming again, soon enough.
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Why are we discussing the goal of the contest? It is literally called "Beat Boho". Can't make it much clearer than that.

Boho, you really need to put up more of a fight. This is like shooting fish in a barrel now.
With the recent standings, "Beat Boho" was evolving to "Maybe everyone can Beat Boho" .
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Nunnun's $130,000 $150,000 advantage isn't so scary.
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Indexers need a tax bill to gain $20,000. I just need a couple of hours of research over a few days.
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Indexers need a tax bill to gain $20,000. I just need a couple of hours of research over a few days.
Yawn. As if your holdings had not profited from the general bull market. You're talking pretty big for someone in 17th place.
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I had a shot at tying nunnun today because I discovered ONCE at a great price but with the 20 minute rule I have no idea what it will be when bought. It's rising rapidly. Still, I placed a market order with about half of my account value.

...couldn't sell when I wanted either. I still think it's very low so no big deal but I'm down for now.
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I had a shot at tying nunnun today because I discovered ONCE at a great price but...
Huh? ONCE opened at 48.77 and peaked at 55.22. Even if you had made an absolutely perfect trade with half your account, that 13% difference wouldn't nearly have been enough to catch nun.
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Huh? ONCE opened at 48.77 and peaked at 55.22. Even if you had made an absolutely perfect trade with half your account, that 13% difference wouldn't nearly have been enough to catch nun.
I was predicting what would happen by the close. It could still happen except I placed a low sell order so I won't be taking advantage of it if it does.
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And? It closed yesterday at 49.05. What's the difference?
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And? It closed yesterday at 49.05. What's the difference?
I mean I was predicting the rise at todays close, a few hours from now. They had back to back bad and good news and I think there's some volatility because of that but I expect it to rise more. I didn't weigh the bad against the good. I was just betting the bad mostly played out and I wanted to ride the good.
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Indexers need a tax bill to gain $20,000. I just need a couple of hours of research over a few days.
And yet... you are trailing badly after more than 10 months of applying your superior strategies.

I still am very suspicious you are just trolling us, because I don't think anyone can seriously reconcile your statements versus your performance.The "a few more trades like this and..." talk is getting old.

Maybe you figured you'd get lucky, and then could brag about it? I foresee a "Beat BOHO 9,463" and you still wont beat the market any more than monkeys/darts would predict.

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And yet... you are trailing badly after more than 10 months of applying your superior strategies.
It's not a 10 month contest. If anyone with a short attention span would like a side contest of months instead of years let me know. I'd trade differently.
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It's not a 10 month contest. If anyone with a short attention span would like a side contest of months instead of years let me know. I'd trade differently.
Right. Being behind now is all part of a grand strategy. I get it.

It's not like a marathon running race, where holding back might allow you to "pour it on" near the end. Just don't work that way with investing.

Maybe you should have started 2 contests at once - a short one and long one. Start enough, you are bound to 'win' eventually.

I'm pretty sure nun would take a enough time out from napping to join you in a 10 month long contest. Assuming placing those two initial trades isn't too taxing on nun.

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Right. Being behind now is all part of a grand strategy. I get it.

It's not like a marathon running race, where holding back might allow you to "pour it on" near the end. Just don't work that way with investing.
It's not holding back. It's just that it doesn't matter yet so I took a break after I dropped and I guess during that time it looked like I can't come back. Now I'm back from my break.
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It's not holding back. It's just that it doesn't matter yet so I took a break after I dropped and I guess during that time it looked like I can't come back. Now I'm back from my break.
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