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Old 03-13-2019, 02:54 PM   #1221
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I'm taking the opposite trade to Boho on this one, I bought BA hoping for a bounce off the bad news low. But I was too late so I got in at 378 and am currently down (it's 376 right now). So both Boho and I are losers on this trade! LOL. We'll see what happens.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:56 PM   #1222
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So, how does what I did work? The longer I wait to buy the shorted stock, do I pay a higher fee? Is there a time limit?
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:39 AM   #1223
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So, how does what I did work? The longer I wait to buy the shorted stock, do I pay a higher fee? Is there a time limit?
No, there's no time limit. It's basically just the opposite of buying a stock. If it's a dividend-paying stock, in real life you have to pay the dividends, I believe. But I don't know if that happens in this simulator. I read the help sections on short selling and they didn't mention it, so I think you're probably off the hook for that.
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:38 AM   #1224
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If you shorted a stock, the simulator does remove dividends from your cash. If it didn't, that would be a huge flaw.
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:42 AM   #1225
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I tried a Buy to Cover at $365.10 for BA and it said it's an invalid symbol, then I tried again and it worked. I don't think I'll try changing it again but multiple attempts could work.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:58 PM   #1226
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On Thursday I read one analyst say that Biogen (BIIB) is now just an ordinary value stock due to the failure of their Alzheimer's drug. In the same article someone said he expects it to drop 20%, so when I saw it down around 26% I bought it (for $227.99). It dropped a little more that day but on Friday it started out up and got as high as $226.80. It's at $217.07 now. It sounds like they have to make some kind of move now and I expect any plan that they announce to be good news so I think it will work out at the price I paid.

With BA...um...my Buy to Cover price was met at some point and BA is still low enough but the Buy to Cover order disappeared so I still have to Buy to Cover. Hopefully Monday.

I bought CME for $175.98 and it's down to $163.32. I attempted to buy that one using my typical "method", unlike with BA and BIIB for which I used my second or third choice method, but I was a little out of practice and I'm not sure I would have bought it when I was in the zone. I did some further research after the buy and it seems OK I guess. I went on their website to get more detail on the info that I saw in the news that Fidelity gave me before I bought (about a lowering of some expectation in the company's guidance) but I couldn't find anything recent. I didn't dig deeper to see what's going on but I'm holding it for now.
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Old 03-25-2019, 07:25 AM   #1227
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'Someone said'? Your 'method'? The 'zone'? Aren't you getting tired of trolling us? Not even ERD50 is replying to you anymore.
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'Someone said'? Your 'method'? The 'zone'? Aren't you getting tired of trolling us? Not even ERD50 is replying to you anymore.
"Someone said" in an article, and I don't read crap. They wouldn't quote a guy who doesn't know anything. He estimated what the stock is worth now. That matters. And I'm ahead with BA anyway. Don't try to spin my wins into something negative.

It turns out I didn't have enough money to cover BA so I guess the trade failed but it's not listed under failed trades. I'm selling $100,000 of a fund so I can Buy to Cover BA. If BA stays low enough. Unfortunately the fund and BA are both up today.
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"Someone said" in an article, and I don't read crap. They wouldn't quote a guy who doesn't know anything.
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Don't change a thing in your investing approach, Boho. Your entertainment value is still high.
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Old 03-25-2019, 07:51 AM   #1231
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Don't try to spin my wins into something negative.
Thanks for the laugh. You keep on winning, I'll see myself out.
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BA is up over 1% and I'm still ahead with my short.
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But since the market is down I didn't sell enough of the fund to buy BA so I'm selling some more...
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Recap of recent history with all the winning going on:

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Current RankPrevious Day's RankAccount Value (USD)Today's Change in ValueOverall%
8. nunnun8$1,219,490.84 ($2,620.80)21.95%
9. BohoII9$1,131,384.07 ($2,820.63)13.14%
33. secondcor52124$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
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"Someone said" in an article, and I don't read crap. They wouldn't quote a guy who doesn't know anything. He estimated what the stock is worth now. That matters. And I'm ahead with BA anyway. Don't try to spin my wins into something negative.
Today's rankings (which I am failing at formatting for some reason):

Current Rank Account Value (USD) Overall%
7. nunnun $1,220,802.96 22.08%
14. BohoII $1,113,549.93 11.35%
23. secondcor521 $1,000,000.00 0.00%

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I'm holding two stocks that I recently bought during a dramatic drop. Hopefully it will turn out the same as when I bought the market on maximum margin (I dropped dramatically in rank before recovering). I made about $6000 with the BA trade though.
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Oh, I guess there's also the number of alternate statistics that you claim to win. I'm less interested in that one but it's still mildly amusing.
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I made about $6000 with the BA trade though
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1. Spudd1$2,098,795.11 $8,240.00 109.88%
2. comsecga2$1,717,470.01 $20,211.20 71.75%
3. kite_rider4$1,670,924.94 $24,980.00 67.09%
4. Fermion3$1,641,755.02 ($4,231.50)64.18%
5. covert16$1,338,929.74 $17,920.00 33.89%
6. exnavynuke5$1,335,475.14 $13,125.00 33.55%
7. nunnun7$1,232,649.60 $7,745.28 23.26%
8. Totoro_ERF8$1,200,082.61 $6,280.00 20.01%
9. cfahey279$1,180,491.17 $14,901.50 18.05%
10. DieWurst10$1,153,555.23 $8,566.10 15.36%
11. BohoII11$1,142,086.44 $9,728.82 14.21%
12. Fermion112$1,138,629.67 $6,930.00 13.86%
13. cdailey14$1,124,865.92 $13,512.30 12.49%
14. nvestysly13$1,121,927.73 $4,745.85 12.19%
15. wrd5815$1,112,279.14 $4,849.00 11.23%
16. wmc100016$1,100,474.36 $6,624.05 10.05%
17. easysurfer17$1,096,598.91 $4,082.66 9.66%
18. NormYoung18$1,091,073.47 $7,786.84 9.11%
19. natetheb20$1,026,892.04 $12,907.42 2.69%
20. lbymfreddie19$1,012,172.26 ($46,936.71)1.22%
21. RiskyBusinessC221$1,005,478.22 ($4,800.00)0.55%
22. t3ztam3nt22$1,001,395.51 ($8.00)0.14%
23. secondcor52124$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
24. consvgmbl32$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
25. dixonge25$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
26. luckyclub23$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
27. monitorLizzy26$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
28. Gayl27$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
29. HowUnfortunate28$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
30. MizRosie29$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
31. garyweis30$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
32. longshot345kv31$1,000,000.00 $0.00 0.00%
33. Clone234$953,673.56 $15,459.92 -4.63%
34. sengsational33$942,684.25 $3,173.70 -5.73%
35. ransil35$933,717.96 $13,983.00 -6.63%
36. KCScubaSteve36$918,370.07 $7,263.78 -8.16%
37. underwrite37$905,334.58 $5,003.00 -9.47%
38. lawrencewendall38$891,082.64 ($1,156.28)-10.89%
39. RISP39$768,517.97 $8,475.20 -23.15%
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I don't remember when the game ends but I'm setting a price target of my account value at $1,190,000. That's just what I think I'll reach at some point before the game's end. It accounts for CME which I'm waiting to gain more than the $11,857.50 that I lost on it so far, and an arbitrary boost from a trade deal. It should happen within two months. Then some less drastic gains from my trading could put me above nunnun. I'll have to look up when the game ends at some point.
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And I'm not even playing!

So your crystal ball says you will gain a whopping 4% over the next year? Is that the same crystal ball that has you lagging the market? And that number is still behind where the market is today (and yes, the market could drop over the next year, it happens).

Just how do you go about developing such a prediction? I have no idea where the market will be in a year, yet, if I were playing I'd be using nunnun's approach, and be beating you.

I'd bet that your sense that you actually can predict these these is exactly why you are not beating the market.

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And I'm not even playing!

So your crystal ball says you will gain a whopping 4% over the next year? Is that the same crystal ball that has you lagging the market? And that number is still behind where the market is today (and yes, the market could drop over the next year, it happens).

Just how do you go about developing such a prediction? I have no idea where the market will be in a year, yet, if I were playing I'd be using nunnun's approach, and be beating you.

I'd bet that your sense that you actually can predict these these is exactly why you are not beating the market.

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It's actually a two month price target. And I'm at $1,160,177.19 now. Nunnun has $1,246,638.64.
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