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01-20-2018, 08:23 PM
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#621
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,725
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I'm doing my best to make Boho look good
This table joins tickers together so should add up to the unique tickers that each player has had active. So for each stock a player has touched, this chart puts it in the plus or minus column.
Again, ignoring open positions.
Player | Rank | Winning Trades | Losing Trades | Percent Winners |
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exnavynuke | 1 | 0 | 3 | 0% | Totoro_ERF | 2 | 1 | 0 | 100% | comsecga | 3 | 4 | 6 | 40% | up98down34 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 100% | Fermion1 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 50% | sengsational | 10 | 19 | 12 | 61% | RISP | 11 | 5 | 2 | 71% | lbymfreddie | 13 | 2 | 1 | 67% | Spudd | 15 | 13 | 15 | 46% | RiskyBusinessC2 | 17 | 1 | 2 | 33% | BohoII | 18 | 49 | 6 | 89% | trashcan12 | 25 | 0 | 1 | 0% |
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01-20-2018, 08:33 PM
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#622
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
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Thank you. For the record, I only have three open positions.
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01-20-2018, 08:44 PM
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#623
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 26,895
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boho
Totoro could very well win the percent winners contest with his one stock. That's fine. We just have to look at the number of holdings to see how much it matters.
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No we don't. It doesn't matter.
Normally, in any contest, the rules are defined before the contest starts. This one was created as the "Beat Boho" contest.
From what I can tell from the opening posts, this contest is decided by rank, and that is decided by portfolio value. End of story.
You sound like the baseball team claiming that while the other team scored more runs, you should win because you had more strike-outs. Sorry, that wasn't the game. If it was, maybe the other team would have focused on strike-outs instead.
Stop obfuscating and start showing us a portfolio value that rises above nunnun and stays there. That's the only thing that shows anything. You have quite a gap to fill. It needs to be filled with $$$, not excuses/promises.
-ERD50
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01-20-2018, 08:56 PM
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#624
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 587
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My first thought when this thread started was, Oh Brother. But it's very interesting!
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01-21-2018, 05:35 AM
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#625
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Utrecht
Posts: 2,650
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsational
Again, ignoring open positions.
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In my case, the closed out minor position was one very early on, two days after I started, and I still have all others (four additional ones).
All of them are up as of right now, so that's still 5 out of 5. The worst current position is up 21%. The best is up 60%.
Full disclosure: I am not finding enough time to screen for new investments the past few months, so it's in passive mode. Especially the two fashion ones I'd like to close out for a better alternative (but not cash).
Also, all these positions are in my actual stock portfolio (same story, not enough time to track).
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01-21-2018, 02:50 PM
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#626
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,725
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You have my vote for the most likely to win the game.
Player | Rank | Stock | Start | Start$ | End | End/Now$ | Gain/Loss |
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Totoro_ERF | 2 | DB | 03/30/2017 | 184,076 | 05/30/2017 | 195,516 | 6% | | | AER | 05/30/2017 | 223,350 | Open | 270,550 | 21% | | | AER | 05/30/2017 | 265,080 | Open | 324,660 | 22% | | | BKE | 05/30/2017 | 68,200 | Open | 83,000 | 22% | | | MIK | 05/30/2017 | 234,480 | Open | 312,120 | 33% | | | PII | 05/30/2017 | 252,570 | Open | 404,100 | 60% |
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01-21-2018, 03:54 PM
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#627
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
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Look at where he has $404,100. They make recreational vehicles. They may have peaked. They were even stronger in 2014-2015 before taking a one year dive followed by a year of volatility.
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01-21-2018, 07:56 PM
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#628
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,725
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They make these. No wonder they're making money. I want one!
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01-21-2018, 08:35 PM
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#629
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 26,895
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boho
Look at where he has $404,100. They make recreational vehicles. They may have peaked. They were even stronger in 2014-2015 before taking a one year dive followed by a year of volatility.
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Are you still believing your own press releases? Isn't being around 18th place and ~ $185K behind the market index telling you anything about your predictive capabilities, or lack thereof, or maybe that it's a counter-indicator?
Hints to the #2 guy, from the #18 guy is pretty funny! Or is it sad?
I'm guessing now, if he does anything, it will be to hold, since you are thinking sell!
Ya can't make this stuff up! Well, unless you can (are we being trolled?).
-ERD50
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01-21-2018, 08:57 PM
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#630
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
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Is it the end of the month already?
I'm just talking about buying low and selling high. It's about as high as it's ever been and there's a history of that not lasting. Maybe there's more wide open space and disposable income for people to want those things and they'll maintain their lead. I don't look too deeply at those things. Highs that aren't part of a steady historical pattern mean sell to me. To me they mean sell even when they're clearly cyclical too, but that's mainly because I'm a day trader.
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01-22-2018, 04:06 AM
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#631
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Utrecht
Posts: 2,650
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boho
Look at where he has $404,100. They make recreational vehicles. They may have peaked. They were even stronger in 2014-2015 before taking a one year dive followed by a year of volatility.
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Yup. They took a dive because of an expensive product recall. I figured their brand can whether the storm in the mid to long term, also given their strong market position, while in the meantime they still are a profitable business and reasonably valued at current prices, and there you go. So you get paid to wait (in theory). The recovery was much much faster than I expected though. Good for them (and me, incidently).
I agree that they probably had a full recovery, but as said I haven't had time to reassess and find better 'new' targets. That said, it's still a great business with high returns on capital, and a longer term double digit revenue growth.
And as always, luck vs. expertise .. who knows.
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01-22-2018, 07:10 AM
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#632
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 26,895
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Totoro
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And as always, luck vs. expertise .. who knows.
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Ahhh, humility from someone near the top in this contest. So refreshing and so much nicer to hear in this thread than bragging/excuses from a, ummm, someone else .
Good luck/expertise to you going forward!
-ERD50
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01-22-2018, 08:14 AM
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#633
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
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RNR, that insurance company that took a hit from the California fires, that I have $286,066.00 invested in, is finally up. Total gain 1.48%. Up 5.84% today. So, finally I'll be rid of that when it sells in 20 minutes.
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01-22-2018, 09:30 AM
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#634
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERD50
Ya can't make this stuff up! Well, unless you can (are we being trolled?).
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Here's what I imagine is happening...
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01-22-2018, 09:50 AM
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#635
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 26,895
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsational
Here's what I imagine is happening...
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Guilty as charged!
-ERD50
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01-23-2018, 09:46 AM
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#636
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boho
You could cancel limit orders (at least in the past) when the market is open, can't you? Hard to believe I've never done that.
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Yes, limit orders could be canceled, but not market orders. Wish I realized this. All I have to do if I want a market order is set a wildly high limit, then I could cancel.
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01-26-2018, 04:07 PM
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#637
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,725
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As of the end of the week's trading...
K$ | counts | best | worst |
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Player | Rank | Value of All | Value of:Open | Cash Balance | Average Cash |
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comsecga | 3 | $1,521K | $794K | $-101K | $-16K | exnavynuke | 2 | $1,520K | $1,295K | $-289K | $-395K | Totoro_ERF | 4 | $1,411K | $1,429K | $-18K | $149K | up98down34 | 1 | $1,406K | $787K | $7K | $158K | Fermion1 | 5 | $1,328K | $0K | $598K | $682K | DieWurst | 6 | $1,289K | $1,289K | $0K | $12K | nunnun | 7 | $1,229K | $1,213K | $16K | $11K | kite_rider | 8 | $1,190K | $847K | $342K | $752K | sengsational | 9 | $1,185K | $1,012K | $6K | $34K | RISP | 10 | $1,164K | $1,039K | $1K | $59K | nvestysly | 12 | $1,153K | $1,023K | $0K | $530K | cfahey27 | 11 | $1,150K | $787K | $4K | $604K | lbymfreddie | 13 | $1,131K | $1,120K | $11K | $91K | Spudd | 14 | $1,123K | $1,121K | $2K | $275K | easysurfer | 15 | $1,120K | $580K | $114K | $322K | RiskyBusinessC2 | 17 | $1,075K | $845K | $230K | $680K | Clone2 | 16 | $1,072K | $1,071K | $1K | $898K | BohoII | 18 | $1,032K | $684K | $347K | $339K | lawrencewendall | 19 | $1,015K | $1,670K | $-655K | $-507K | MizRosie | 22 | $1,000K | $0K | $1,000K | $1,000K | Gayl | 21 | $1,000K | $0K | $1,000K | $1,000K | garyweis | 23 | $1,000K | $0K | $1,000K | $1,000K | longshot345kv | 20 | $1,000K | $0K | $1,000K | $1,000K | trashcan12 | 25 | $979K | $809K | $78K | $120K | Fermion | 26 | $680K | $416K | $264K | $738K |
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3 | 27 | 4 | 0 | 11 | 10 | 3 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 16 | 1 | 0 | 9 | 5 | 3 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 25 | 108 | 0 | 0 | 41 | 31 | 10 | 31 | 6 | 1 | 11 | 7 | 18 | 23 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 8 | 86 | 2 | 3 | 48 | 29 | 2 | 18 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 12 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 214 | 0 | 0 | 114 | 62 | 8 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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SHOP | $143K | 80% | FAS | $237K | 67% | PII | $152K | 60% | MNKD | $215K | 100% | NVDA | $29K | 7% | VWO | $141K | 28% | VOO | $108K | 21% | ANET | $95K | 50% | IRMD | $27K | 76% | BXC | $35K | 52% | INTC | $21K | 43% | AAPL | $55K | 12% | BOFI | $186K | 38% | CNCE | $66K | 31% | VXUS | $43K | 18% | EDF | $43K | 9% | DE | $41K | 8% | ANW | $25K | 4% | SDYL | $16K | 28% | none | $0K | ?% | none | $0K | ?% | none | $0K | ?% | none | $0K | ?% | PEY | $30K | 9% | none | $0K | ?% |
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GIMO | $-59K | -21% | SOXL | $-36K | -7% | DB | $11K | 6% | O | $11K | 4% | ECYT | $-37K | -23% | VEU | $44K | 22% | VTI | $106K | 21% | BABA | $4K | 15% | ICON | $-23K | -70% | SBH | $-18K | -18% | GE | $-18K | -33% | MU | $21K | 14% | TEVA | $-163K | -51% | BB | $-101K | -20% | BND | $-4K | -1% | TICC | $-1K | -18% | CAT | $32K | 6% | RAD | $-163K | -26% | FTR | $-79K | -40% | none | $0K | ?% | none | $0K | ?% | none | $0K | ?% | none | $0K | ?% | DES | $-100K | -63% | CLSN | $-258K | -52% |
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01-26-2018, 09:01 PM
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#638
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
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I'd be neck and neck with nunnun if not for Rite Aid. One stock out of 214 trades.
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01-29-2018, 12:48 PM
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#639
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,844
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I'm constantly allowed to buy, all at once, far more than I'm allowed to sell all at once. I wonder if the volume rules are different for buys and sells or if I'm just noticing when it affects me badly.
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01-30-2018, 11:06 AM
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#640
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 13,150
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With the market taking a hit the past couple of days, my chance to make up some ground on nunnun.
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