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Old 08-09-2018, 12:59 PM   #261
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Stock racing back to $350 level, may drop below that tomorrow. Just shows the market no longer feels the $420 is viable, imagine the suckers who jumped in at $380 expecting a ride north of $400, instead eyeing a 10% haircut in a matter of days. Not sure which is more speculation, BitCoin or Tesla..... LOL
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.[/B] The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
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For those who might have concerns or be interested, as mentioned in an earlier thread, understanding the reason for SEC rule 10b-11, might help when considering any stock that is showing unusual volatility.
Hmm... the NYT must have picked up on this eh?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/b...tesla-sec.html

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But it was Mr. Musk’s “funding secured” statement on Twitter that may put the iconoclastic founder most at risk. He provided no details about how much funding had been secured, from whom or under what conditions. His email to employees did not mention anything about the funding.

“That’s a clear factual statement,” said John C. Coffee Jr., a professor at Columbia Law School who specializes in corporate law and securities fraud. “If it’s not fully secure, that’s potentially a very material misrepresentation, and a very straightforward violation of Rule 10b-5” of the securities law — in short, securities fraud.
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Another non-tech overview of Tesla the man... from Bloomberg.

"Tesla's Amazing, Tesla's Horrible"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...nd-bears-speak
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Another non-tech overview of Tesla the man... from Bloomberg.

"Tesla's Amazing, Tesla's Horrible"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...nd-bears-speak
No discussion of Nikola Tesla.
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No discussion of Nikola Tesla.
That's exactly what crossed my mind too. "What about Nikola?" He's a fascinating person.
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Stock continuing to be a knife drop from the $380 at tweet time, pushing near $300 today and with big volume. Maybe index funds bailing due to talk of going private (many can't hold private stock), or maybe the shine on Musk finally coming off?

Looks like shorts may get the last laugh....

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/tesl...-with-sec.html
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Stock continuing to be a knife drop from the $380 at tweet time, pushing near $300 today and with big volume. Maybe index funds bailing due to talk of going private (many can't hold private stock), or maybe the shine on Musk finally coming off?

Looks like shorts may get the last laugh....

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/tesl...-with-sec.html
It will be interesting to see how much TESLA will owe to shorts who were sold out of Tesla position by the Funding Secured @ 420 statement, which has now been shown by the company & Musk to not be true and the defense seems to be I was on drugs at the time.
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Stock continuing to be a knife drop from the $380 at tweet time, pushing near $300 today and with big volume. Maybe index funds bailing due to talk of going private (many can't hold private stock), or maybe the shine on Musk finally coming off?

Looks like shorts may get the last laugh....

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/tesl...-with-sec.html
TESLA is highly unlikely to go private, they will be darn lucky to survive. And index funds by their nature have to hold on to Tesla on the 1 in 100 chance it does go private @ 420 they would underperform the index.
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I don't own Tesla stock, nor am interested in shorting it. I don't even actively follow the company or its CEO, other than read the articles that keep popping up daily on these Web sites.

Just as a passive observer, I saw that the stock price jumped up after the most recent quarterly report, when Musk apologized for his bad behavior in the previous quarterly report. And people started to give him credit for improving the production rate of the Tesla 3.

Then, why did Musk go nuts and do that silly Twitter post about $420/share buyout?

Looks like he is like so many people who crave the limelight that these posts bring. They like to see their name mentioned daily in print, and on various Web sites, I guess.
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I think he does not think he can make it through the next year.
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I think he does not think he can make it through the next year.

What I think is he might be worried about BK...



Remember that he was involved with Solar City and when they had problems he had Tesla buy it... and after being acquired immediately started to drop in the rankings of solar providers.... someone today on TV said that they might be having Space X looking to buy Tesla... I would hate to see that since I think Space X is more important to the USA future than Tesla...



Sounds like a bunch of bait and switch...
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What I think is he might be worried about BK...
Help me out here. BK? Burger King? Can't be. What do you mean?
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Help me out here. BK? Burger King? Can't be. What do you mean?

Bankruptcy....
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That's exactly what crossed my mind too. "What about Nikola?" He's a fascinating person.
Yes, he "was".
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The guy's a crackpot.

Nobody wants some clunky old electric car. They are just a bunch of glorified golf carts.

Land and reuse rocket boosters? He must be insane. That only works in science fiction movies.

No way an American company can economically compete with rockets made in China, Russian or even Europe.

The guy's a nut case. Ignore him.

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I have no idea if Mr. Musk will succeed in making Tesla a profitable ongoing presences in the auto industry. I don't own the individual stock and have no plans to do so. But, Must does things that seasoned experts would never try. The guys and gals at CNN? They can go jump on trampolines.
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I don't own Tesla stock, nor am interested in shorting it. I don't even actively follow the company or its CEO, other than read the articles that keep popping up daily on these Web sites.

Just as a passive observer, I saw that the stock price jumped up after the most recent quarterly report, when Musk apologized for his bad behavior in the previous quarterly report. And people started to give him credit for improving the production rate of the Tesla 3.

Then, why did Musk go nuts and do that silly Twitter post about $420/share buyout?

Looks like he is like so many people who crave the limelight that these posts bring. They like to see their name mentioned daily in print, and on various Web sites, I guess.
I am in your camp. This stock is a "don't touch". Way too crazy for me, I will stick with my boring AAPL, ADI, EW, HON, and others. You know, companies that actually make money.
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Looks like Tesla may need to stop at recharging station after Friday's close.

Tesla, Inc. (TSLA)

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305.50 -29.95 (-8.93%)At close: August 17 4:00PM EDT
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Ah got it. Thanks.

The way he is acting. The paranoia. For all I know he is worried about Burger King too.
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Space news interests me, so SpaceX news items inevitably get included in my daily perusal of news. Electric cars never interested me all that much, so normally never followed Tesla news items.

Yet it was the daily attacks on both SpaceX and Tesla that appeared in the comments sections of SpaceX news items that finally made me take a closer look at Tesla news items. The attacks on SpaceX contained obvious false claims with a healthy mixture of personal attacks on Musk’s character. I didn’t quite understand the animosity toward SpaceX since it is not publicly traded. Anyway, after some research I came across this article that provides a plausible explanation for what I was observing and seems to indicate Musk’s paranoia is well earned:
https://insideevs.com/tesla-short-se...media-crusade/

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