Toyota - who's buying?

My Daughter in Law has one of the cars in the recall. She was told by the dealer hers was not recalled because her VIN starts with a J, meaning it was made in Japan. It's only the ones made in USA that are being recalled. I also saw the part that caused the failure was made by an American company. True? Do American auto workers even screw up foreign reliable cars? :blush:
 
.............. Do American auto workers even screw up foreign reliable cars? :blush:

That is kind of a cheap shot. You - and Toyota, evidently - have no idea what the real problem is at this point.
 
I would buy a Toyota, but I am not a fan of their design and body lines. I have no problem with their reliaiblity, even considering recent events............:)
 
That is kind of a cheap shot. You - and Toyota, evidently - have no idea what the real problem is at this point.

The "real problem" which may be more than one thing, continues to be elusive. US National Transportation Safety Board is now investigating sudden acceleration incidents in cars which were recalled and repaired, yet still exhibited the problem after the "fix" was made.
 
That is kind of a cheap shot. You - and Toyota, evidently - have no idea what the real problem is at this point.

Perhaps it is, and perhaps I don't. Maybe you can enlighten me.

American cars have consistently had poor ratings in almost all catagories measured against Japanese products. We now know what kind of shape they're in.

We used to have a GM plant in Van Nuys Ca. I would do investigations of workers in the plant along with local probation officers. Drug addiction running rampant. So bad, many workers just fell onto the assembly line...back to custody....then back to the plant.

Do we still have a Soap Box. Maybe this belongs there.
 
NEIN!

Neither stock, bond, or vehicle! :nonono:


Ditto on the comment about buying inexpensive cars.

Big ticket product manufacturers do not get a second chance with me if there are reasonable alternatives. I have not owned a toyota before but I have seriously looked at them for a purchase in the past. After this, I will pass. Too many other alternatives.


My brother has two toyotas (their only transportation)... one of which he just purchased before the sudden acceleration issue hit the news (the sudden acceleration issue toyota still denies exists). He is not happy with the company and how they are handling it.

He was a loyal customer... now he feels like an angry victim because toyota is refusing to acknowledge the problem. He feels it is a risk to his family. He is considering trading one of the vehicles for a Ford so his wife (and baby) does not have to drive it... since it looks like toyota is going to drag it out rather than offer a speedy fix (or failsafe where hitting the brakes kills the accelerator like in European models).
 
Perhaps it is, and perhaps I don't. Maybe you can enlighten me.

American cars have consistently had poor ratings in almost all catagories measured against Japanese products. We now know what kind of shape they're in.

We used to have a GM plant in Van Nuys Ca. I would do investigations of workers in the plant along with local probation officers. Drug addiction running rampant. So bad, many workers just fell onto the assembly line...back to custody....then back to the plant.

Do we still have a Soap Box. Maybe this belongs there.

All I can say is that you paint with a pretty broad brush. Jumping from a few dopers you knew in Van Nuys to all American auto workers?
 
All I can say is that you paint with a pretty broad brush. Jumping from a few dopers you knew in Van Nuys to all American auto workers?

It is a bit unfair, I admit.

I really can't say why the other auto plants put out the same lower quality products. :D
 
As for the stock, only with speculation money, if any. This situation doesn't seem over yet, and if I want to gamble I can go to the local casino:)
As for the vehicles, I would have no qualms buying a new Toyota just as I have no qualms walking outside as it is more likely I would be hit by lightning than die from this 'unintended acceleration issue'.
However, I doubt my next vehicle will be a toyota, not because of quality, but because other competitors are starting to produce EVs. As I have told my Toyota dealer, my next car will be an EV. If Toyota doesn't have one, their chances of getting my business is zero.
 
My Daughter in Law has one of the cars in the recall. She was told by the dealer hers was not recalled because her VIN starts with a J, meaning it was made in Japan. It's only the ones made in USA that are being recalled. I also saw the part that caused the failure was made by an American company. True? Do American auto workers even screw up foreign reliable cars? :blush:


So, if an American worker builds a poor Foreign design, who is to blame?

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So, if an American worker builds a poor Foreign design, who is to blame?

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I think Pete just wants to know if the ignore function really works. Glad to demonstrate. :greetings10:
 
Toyota-- brought to you by the fine people who bombed Pearl Harbor!

Disclosure: I'm an X-Chevrolet Dodge Chrysler Jeep dealer so I may be biased.
 
Probably shouldn't buy German or Italian.
Better be safe and not by anything from the southern (or northern) states. Oh, and any cars from the English as well.
 
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