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02-19-2010, 12:05 PM
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Location: New Orleans
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Originally Posted by sailfish
Rome was a major dissapointment.
I am in Florida right now in Feb. Three weeks and leaving to go back home in NJ.
I cannot see the fascination that some people have to come down here. I went to 4 different areas of the state where 4 couples (freind/aquaintances) are staying till April. They are not doing anything different down here than they do up North. I saw the Villages also . Not Impressed!
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Originally Posted by waltwill8
Except for not shoveling snow!
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I don't live in "snow country", but can't you just hire someone to do that for you? I wouldn't think that would break the bank. Besides, there is a lot more to comparing cost of living, than that. It might actually be more expensive to live in the north, but I would look at a more thorough comparison of costs before assuming that is the case.
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02-19-2010, 01:12 PM
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#102
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Gone but not forgotten
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sarasota,fl.
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Originally Posted by waltwill8
Except for not shoveling snow!
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Plus they are usually walking the beach , eating at outside cafes , playing golf or tennis ,fishing , or just sitting outside instead of spending four months in constant gray weather . I've lived in Florida for fourteen years and there are some things I do not like but being able to go outside year round without massive layers of clothes is not one of them .
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02-19-2010, 01:35 PM
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Moe, how long did it take you to stop hunching your shoulders up to your ears when you go outside, as my daughter and I were just laughing about doing from October through April here in Illinois? Brrrrr.
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02-19-2010, 02:04 PM
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#104
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Location: San Francisco
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Originally Posted by Moemg
Plus they are usually walking the beach , eating at outside cafes , playing golf or tennis ,fishing , or just sitting outside instead of spending four months in constant gray weather . I've lived in Florida for fourteen years and there are some things I do not like but being able to go outside year round without massive layers of clothes is not one of them .
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I agree with you, Moe. After spending forever up north, we moved to the hot weather about 10 years ago. Living outdoors trumped the negative factors. Only the kids could draw us away, and probably only part of the year at that.
I loved Wisconsin for 21 years and still do. But my priorities have changed for good.
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02-19-2010, 02:30 PM
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#105
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Gone but not forgotten
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sarasota,fl.
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Originally Posted by Bestwifeever
Moe, how long did it take you to stop hunching your shoulders up to your ears when you go outside, as my daughter and I were just laughing about doing from October through April here in Illinois? Brrrrr.
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It took me awhile to acclimate and every once in awhile I would say I missed living up North and one of my co-workers would make that sound your car makes when starting in brutal cold weather and that would bring me down to earth . I still visit the North and there are many things I love about it but January to March is not one of them . It's not just the snow . It's the constant grayness and lack of color for months and the cooped in feeling .
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02-19-2010, 03:29 PM
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#106
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Indialantic FL
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My biggest destination disappointment were the pubs in Ireland. Totally corporate feel for me. The brewpubs that we found in Dublin were really what I thought the pubs would be like.
The pubs had essentially the same setup behind the bar, no matter where you went, same beer, same liquor, same setup and organization. Sure the people were fun etc, but just wasn't what I was expecting. The brewpubs though were a wee bit of heaven!
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02-19-2010, 03:53 PM
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#107
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Glad to hear this. Hope Rome is not on my disappointment list. DH and I are going to Rome for the first time in a couple of months. I hope I'll like it. We're not much into frantic touring and shopping. We prefer hanging out and soaking in the feel of a place.
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02-19-2010, 03:59 PM
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#108
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moemg
...but January to March is not one of them . It's not just the snow . It's the constant grayness and lack of color for months and the cooped in feeling .
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Really? I never noticed that.
Just call me at 1-800-CBN-FEVR
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02-19-2010, 04:14 PM
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gone traveling
Join Date: May 2008
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Echoing what several others have posted here...
Biggest destination disappointments:
1. Stonehenge (the motorway 100 yards away kills the whole mysticism thing, IMO- it just looks like big rocks in a field alongside the road with lots of traffic whizzing by)
2. Las Vegas (is there anywhere else on earth with a higher concentration of chain smokers?) I have to do a couple of trade shows a year there, dread flying in and cannot wait to get out of the place....
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02-19-2010, 04:30 PM
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#110
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moemg
It took me awhile to acclimate and every once in awhile I would say I missed living up North and one of my co-workers would make that sound your car makes when starting in brutal cold weather and that would bring me down to earth . I still visit the North and there are many things I love about it but January to March is not one of them . It's not just the snow . It's the constant grayness and lack of color for months and the cooped in feeling .
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Don't forget the annual Winter colds, sniffles and other assorted ailments you get during that time up North, too. Cough, cough...21 days or 3 weeks whichever one you pick is how long it usually lasts.
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02-19-2010, 04:33 PM
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#111
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Moderator Emeritus
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Originally Posted by Orchidflower
Don't forget the annual Winter colds, sniffles and other assorted ailments you get during that time up North, too. Cough, cough...21 days or 3 weeks whichever one you pick is how long it usually lasts.
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I have had one for at least that long, here. In fact, it was on the news last night that all the doctors around here are swamped with a long lasting winter cold lately.
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02-20-2010, 07:51 AM
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#112
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailfish
I am in Florida right now in Feb. Three weeks and leaving to go back home in NJ.
I cannot see the fascination that some people have to come down here. I went to 4 different areas of the state where 4 couples (freind/aquaintances) are staying till April. They are not doing anything different down here than they do up North. I saw the Villages also . Not Impressed!
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We're in the minority but you're not alone. I lived in Lakeland, FL for 3 years and spent a lot of time in Orlando, Tampa, Clearwater, etc. When I got transferred there I thought it would be wonderful. I have lived in WA, RI, CA, TX, FL, OH, IN & NJ and visited all over the US and several foreign countries, and FL was the least desirable place I have ever lived period (despite living in the nicest house we ever owned). But again, I realize that's not how most people feel, even some close friends of mine. YMMV
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02-20-2010, 10:39 AM
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#113
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: North-Central Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailfish
.....I am in Florida right now in Feb. Three weeks and leaving to go back home in NJ.
I cannot see the fascination that some people have to come down here. I went to 4 different areas of the state where 4 couples (freind/aquaintances) are staying till April. They are not doing anything different down here than they do up North......
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waltwill8
Except for not shoveling snow!
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Walt Beat me to the draw! That was my first thought!
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Originally Posted by W2R
I don't live in "snow country", but can't you just hire someone to do that for you? I wouldn't think that would break the bank.....
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It's really not an issue of cost. Sometimes it may be availability after a good sized snow fall....but they'll get around to ya eventually!
Besides the snow removal, there are countless other issues that us polar bears have to deal with throughout the winter....once the snow and/or ice are rmoved from our sidewalks and driveways, we have to clear the same off of our vehicles (if left outdoors...like mine are). Then there's contending with the ice, slush, slop, and snow on the streets and roads...as well as the other people who are doing the same (many of them have NO idea how to drive in the aftermath of a snowstorm!). Once you (hopefully) reach your destination, you have to get out of your vehicle and trudge through the ice, slush, slop, and snow in parking lots and on sidewalks that haven't been cleaned up yet. And after all of that....you get to play it in reverse getting back home! It's too much fun for one person to enjoy alone, so that's why there are so many of us living 'up north'.....a.k.a. misery loves company!
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Originally Posted by Moemg
Plus they are usually walking the beach , eating at outside cafes , playing golf or tennis ,fishing , or just sitting outside instead of spending four months in constant gray weather . I've lived in Florida for fourteen years and there are some things I do not like but being able to go outside year round without massive layers of clothes is not one of them .
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Ding, Ding Ding!!! Mo picked the winning number!!! Those are the reasons we come down to FL every February....it's an escape!!! We've escaped the gray days with the cabin walls closing in on us, and found warmer weather and sunshine! Layering my clothes down here has consisted of (at most) throwing a denim shirt on over my t-shirt or polo, and I found my pair of jeans in the bottom of my suitcase this morning while I was looking for something else. I'll probably have to put them on next Saturday when we're up north in Georgia!
Would I want to move down here permanently? No way! Summers would kill me, 'cause I don't like heat and humidity. Woiuld I consider spending the entire Winter here? Oh, yeah! I could easily adjust to that kind of thing! I have several friends and neighbors that do just exactly that! My one eighbor across the street comes down to FL just before Thanksgiving, and returns home up north right around 'tax day' April 15th. For me, the first week of December through mid to late March would be fine and dandy, 'cause I love Spring, SUmmer, and Fall at the old homestead in IL!!!
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02-20-2010, 06:37 PM
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#114
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by Purron
Glad to hear this. Hope Rome is not on my disappointment list.....
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I had a blast in Rome several years ago. I went for work with a coworker who was a good friend of mine. We had a good time. We also had some locals who showed us around and took us to some non tourist areas, I really like it there and plan on going back. Hopefully in the next few years.
One of our disappointments was the Virgin Islands. The beach and water were great but we didn't like the area. It just goes to show you everyone is different and likes different things. I know a bunch of people that just love the Virgin Islands.
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02-21-2010, 06:55 AM
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After reading these posts it's pretty clear the problem is with our expectations rather than the destinations. As we get older we seem to get jaded and cynical. Too bad. I think a large part of the enjoyment of travel is just to "be somewhere different".
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02-21-2010, 07:51 AM
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We absolutely loved our four days in Rome, because we love art and are fascinated by antiquity. If those are not your "things," then I guess Rome would seem like any other crowded, overpriced city.
Amethyst
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02-21-2010, 08:59 AM
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#117
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Originally Posted by Gworker
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One of our disappointments was the Virgin Islands. The beach and water were great but we didn't like the area. It just goes to show you everyone is different and likes different things. I know a bunch of people that just love the Virgin Islands.
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I was on the VI with Earthwatch moving leatherneck sea turtle eggs. On an early morning walk, one of my fellow travelers was robbed at knife point while on the street. We went to the local police station and were stunned when he was asked, Did they take your money or did you give them your money?
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02-22-2010, 06:14 PM
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#118
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Originally Posted by Danmar
After reading these posts it's pretty clear the problem is with our expectations rather than the destinations. As we get older we seem to get jaded and cynical. Too bad. I think a large part of the enjoyment of travel is just to "be somewhere different".
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I'm with you on that one.
I've done a fair amount of domestic and foreign traveling in my 51 years, and have found that as long as I am wearing a smile and have an inquisitive attitude about local customs and food/drink, the locals are open to interacting. I always enjoy the learning experience.
For instance, while in Copehagen, we stopped to rest our feet at a small bar. We were hungry and asked for a menu. I was invited to try the smoked eel. I made a face at the idea, but agreed. The bartender and a few patrons such a kick out of that small gesture on my part to take a chance and play along with the "joke".
The smoked eel was wonderful BTW.
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02-22-2010, 06:35 PM
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#119
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getting this picture was very unpleasant - Pamplona Spain.
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02-22-2010, 06:54 PM
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#120
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Yes, it's all about expectations. Having few helps!
1. Know what you like, and avoid what you don't!
2. Keep an open mind.
3. It takes very little effort to get off the beaten path if that is what you like.
Audrey
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