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Old 09-07-2016, 11:05 PM   #41
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I have done many 2 night trips, but prefer to stay out longer. On long trips I have always stayed 1 night stops enroute. I also can put 500-700 miles in a day if needed, so my purpose is to not stay enroute but rather to get there and enjoy the camping location. Take our 3 dogs (med to large sizes) all the time, they love camping. I have a big 45 ft truck conversion motorhome, so lots of room inside. Do both dry camping/boondocking and hook-ups in campground. I have enough water and tank capacity that I can go nearly 1 week without hookups.

I will certainly do a lot more RVing once fully retired, for now trips are limited duration. It does make it easy to have a basically stocked RV and you just load food and clothes, then ready to hit the road.
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We've done a LOT of short trips, less than 100 miles from home. Two popups, a hard-sided popup and a fifth wheel. When the camper was in storage, we could go get it and have it ready to go in less than an hour. Of course, we had everything lined up and ready to roll. We didn't like bringing the camper home first and advertising that the house was going to be empty. A two night trip is very do-able and enjoyable.

Personally, I'd go pickup/large SUV and a trailer. You may not be out any more money than the Class C. The vehicle then becomes one of your normal cars. As it's being driven routinely, it stays in good shape. Plus, once you unhook the camper, you have a vehicle to run around in. If the camping doesn't work out, then you have a decent vehicle. I've seen people lose a LOT of money buying new campers, deciding they don't like it and sell at a huge loss. One friend bought a new Mercedes camper van ($150k), used it a few times and sold it for $100k. He could have bought a nice new vehicle and nice camper for half of that. I'd look at the resale market also.
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We've done a LOT of short trips, less than 100 miles from home. Two popups, a hard-sided popup and a fifth wheel. When the camper was in storage, we could go get it and have it ready to go in less than an hour. Of course, we had everything lined up and ready to roll. We didn't like bringing the camper home first and advertising that the house was going to be empty. A two night trip is very do-able and enjoyable.

Personally, I'd go pickup/large SUV and a trailer. You may not be out any more money than the Class C. The vehicle then becomes one of your normal cars. As it's being driven routinely, it stays in good shape. Plus, once you unhook the camper, you have a vehicle to run around in. If the camping doesn't work out, then you have a decent vehicle. I've seen people lose a LOT of money buying new campers, deciding they don't like it and sell at a huge loss. One friend bought a new Mercedes camper van ($150k), used it a few times and sold it for $100k. He could have bought a nice new vehicle and nice camper for half of that. I'd look at the resale market also.
I've pulled trailers a lot, and IMO it's a PITA. Backing up, going though gas stations, making tight turns, and especially driving all the way to FL on a high speed interstate with that thing behind me is just not worth it to me. To each his own. And there's no way we're buying anything new, so that part's not a problem. We'll buy used, with the knowledge that we might end up selling it if we find something we like better down the road. Cost of doing business. The one thing that might make us change our mind is if pulling a toad behind a camper is as much of a hassle as pulling a trailer. We'll see about that when we do our rental experiments.

To everyone in the thread, thanks very much! Tons of useful information here. I especially like the idea of dumping into our sewer cleanout. Ours is perfectly located, and I'll definitely be giving it a try.
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As for the sewer cleanout, that's exactly what we did--the spot we backed the motorhome into by the house was right next to a cleanout for the septic tank. Oh, and pro tip--if you buy a used, older one, you will want to replace the existing hose if it has an odor, and also perhaps add a pvc tube to store it in on the back bumper. That's what we did.

It is a lot easier to clean it out at home, at your leisure, than somewhere on the road.
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Thanks for the info on the draining at home, and all the other good stuff here. Now I just need to get over the cost, and also see if my HOA would balk at parking a class B in my side drive. RVs are not allowed, but the Roadtrek 170 looks a lot like a van so maybe it'd pass. I suspect it's whether my neighbors complain, and I have one neighbor who I'm very friendly with but is a rules junkie.
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I have (at least) one other reservation about it. If I show up with it at trail races, I can just imagine how many people are going to want to use the toilet to avoid the long porta john lines, if those are even around. I don't relish the thought of my private bathroom becoming as busy as an airport restroom, nor being a "bad guy" telling people they can't use it.
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I have (at least) one other reservation about it. If I show up with it at trail races, I can just imagine how many people are going to want to use the toilet to avoid the long porta john lines, if those are even around. I don't relish the thought of my private bathroom becoming as busy as an airport restroom, nor being a "bad guy" telling people they can't use it.
Just tell them it's broken. Use the porta john a couple times yourself for show.....
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I have (at least) one other reservation about it. If I show up with it at trail races, I can just imagine how many people are going to want to use the toilet to avoid the long porta john lines, if those are even around. I don't relish the thought of my private bathroom becoming as busy as an airport restroom, nor being a "bad guy" telling people they can't use it.
At the music festivals, my rule was ladies only. Oh, and DH, since he had to do the pumping. And you just lock the door when you aren't at the camper.
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At the music festivals, my rule was ladies only. Oh, and DH, since he had to do the pumping. And you just lock the door when you aren't at the camper.
That would probably work.
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my rule was ladies only.
A maxim to which I have steadfastly adhered my entire life.
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I've got a small A-class and it's parked at home all plugged in with fridge running and the temp adjusted so it won't freeze in winter.

So if I want to go for a trip I grab my wallet, phone and laptop - unplug the power cable - and then I drive off! I stop at a grocery store to buy fresh food. Then stay away for a night - or for a couple of months.

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I would never let anyone use my bathroom. Except close friends and family. If needed I would say "Sorry - it's almost full".
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A maxim to which I have steadfastly adhered my entire life.


And I agree Christine, no randoms, just folks I actually know, that are camping with us.
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Problem is, I know of lot of people at many of these races. Friends will become close friends when they need to go, lines are long, and it's getting close to race time. And you never know when you will need help from one of them on the course. I've seen people end their races to help carry someone out to a road, or walk with them to help them through a rough patch. Or share beers and snacks after a run. It can be a pretty tight community, which is good, until you are the one with the gold.


About the only thing I could get away with is explaining that this little van has a real small capacity, really only meant for a small family weekend at most, not a whole campground. Or I could say that dumping is such a pain that I'm not even using it.


What I need to do is find someone that has one and ask how they handle it. I see very few though. Usually none, except for a doc who shows up a lot for medical support, and he's got a good excuse for keeping his clean.
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I have a maceration pump from Flojet that hooks to the rv and then uses a hose to the cleanout of my septic. Only way to go. Works great and can go anywhere.
Hey, would that work if the clean out is 100-110 feet from the RV? Also it is slightly (not dramatically) uphill from the RV to the clean out.
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Hey, would that work if the clean out is 100-110 feet from the RV? Also it is slightly (not dramatically) uphill from the RV to the clean out.

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Hey, would that work if the clean out is 100-110 feet from the RV? Also it is slightly (not dramatically) uphill from the RV to the clean out.
No, it will not move waste uphill (even slightly).
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Thanks for the info on the draining at home, and all the other good stuff here. Now I just need to get over the cost, and also see if my HOA would balk at parking a class B in my side drive. RVs are not allowed, but the Roadtrek 170 looks a lot like a van so maybe it'd pass. I suspect it's whether my neighbors complain, and I have one neighbor who I'm very friendly with but is a rules junkie.
I'd be a rules junkie on this one too. Once you start looking the other way on anything but passenger vehicles it's a very slippery slope. Some HOA areas have a separate gated and locked area for boats and RV's.
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Problem is, I know of lot of people at many of these races. Friends will become close friends when they need to go, lines are long, and it's getting close to race time. And you never know when you will need help from one of them on the course. I've seen people end their races to help carry someone out to a road, or walk with them to help them through a rough patch. Or share beers and snacks after a run. It can be a pretty tight community, which is good, until you are the one with the gold.

About the only thing I could get away with is explaining that this little van has a real small capacity, really only meant for a small family weekend at most, not a whole campground. Or I could say that dumping is such a pain that I'm not even using it.

What I need to do is find someone that has one and ask how they handle it. I see very few though. Usually none, except for a doc who shows up a lot for medical support, and he's got a good excuse for keeping his clean.
Maybe they could just use one of these other camper's bathrooms since they're at the race anyway.

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It sounds like if we're going someplace with hookups it's no big deal, but if we're boondocking there might be enough more involved to make an overnighter unlikely. That's good information, and I'd appreciate hearing more opinions on that.
We routinely RV (and tent) just for a weekend.
In our experience, no hookups for a short trip is even faster.
We borrow a truck camper from DW's parents.
With water+electric hookups we can get from pulling in to the first beer in 7 minutes. Sewer hookup maybe 3 more minutes (longest part is putting the disposable gloves on)
Setup involves: getting the jack pads under jacks, electric jacks down, plug in electric, get water hose & filter out of the drawer, connect the water, slide the slide out, turn water heater on, get refrigerator bars out, get the camping chairs & welcome mat out (otherwise kids drag a lot of dirt in)

Our prep at home is longer, as we need to move everybody's clothes to the camper and food to the fridge and pantry (~ 20 minutes).
Optionally adding bike rack and 5 bicycles is a little painful (10-15 minutes)

Dumping the tanks at the end of the stay maybe 5 minutes.
Unpacking and cleaning the camper after the trip 20 minutes.
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