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Old 05-27-2014, 07:05 PM   #21
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We were headed to Asheville, NC by way of the Bristol Motor Speedway. We thought the GPS was taking us the long way around. We came upon a T intersection with a farm road with a Tennessee DOT sign that read "Your GPS is wrong, turn back a take State Road ###"
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You need to be careful what you input as a destination. I was passing through south Florida on the way to Key West a decade back or more and put in an address for a motel near the airport. Unfortunately I used Miami as the city (the actual city was something else). The GPS took me off the road and into a scary inner city neighborhood. Also unfortunately I was running on gas fumes and couldn't just reprogram and drive away. I finally found a gas station and pulled in. While gassing up DW turns on the dome light and starts looking at maps. Just what we need - two Q-tips (white hair) obviously lost. At about this time a big, slouchy, droopy pants, gang-banger looking guy comes walking by, does a double take, and tells me I should get my gas in a more suburban location. I laughed and told him I had figured that out but didn't have any options. I wasn't too worried since I am all over the city in DC and realize that the vast majority of people everywhere are decent folks and scary areas are a lot safer than you think. But, still....
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Pretty timely, I just spent yesterday mapping out our driving routes for a trip to Ireland and Scotland next month. This is one time where I wish I had a GPS rather than relying on my smart phone, but in Ireland we are getting a mobile hot spot so we might be able to use Google Maps after all. It doesn't look available in Scotland. Renting a GPS is as expensive as the car so I'm passing on that.

My plan is:
1. Save the turn by turn directions from Google Maps
2. Sketch out a map on paper
3. Use a paper map (though it's tough to read in detail and doesn't have many backroads)
4. Verify at least the less obvious turns with street view so I can see what the landmarks at the turns look like and note them. Some have good signs, and some might be "where that cow is standing".
5. The night before I will cache google maps on my phone using the "OK maps" trick.

This should work great as long as I stay on course. The problem will be if I miss a turn. First, I need to realize I missed a turn, and second, figure out how to correct it. I've just decided not to miss any turns. My son will be navigating. He's good at that, plus he's going to stay alert and make sure I'm driving in the right (wait, no, left) lane.

I noticed one out of the way place we're going in Ireland that google maps keeps giving me different directions. In one place it just says "turn right". No name or number, because it seems like there isn't one. I rerouted to a very slightly longer route that mostly follows the same road. There were also a couple places in Scotland where it had me taking a lot of back roads instead of just taking a few more minutes on main roads. I know there's some charm in seeing those spots, but there's not so much charm in getting lost or having a local getting mad being stuck behind me as I drive slowly looking for a turn that's miles (oops, kilometres) away.
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Pretty timely, I just spent yesterday mapping out our driving routes for a trip to Ireland and Scotland next month. This is one time where I wish I had a GPS rather than relying on my smart phone, but in Ireland we are getting a mobile hot spot so we might be able to use Google Maps after all. It doesn't look available in Scotland. Renting a GPS is as expensive as the car so I'm passing on that.

My plan is:
1. Save the turn by turn directions from Google Maps
2. Sketch out a map on paper
3. Use a paper map (though it's tough to read in detail and doesn't have many backroads)
4. Verify at least the less obvious turns with street view so I can see what the landmarks at the turns look like and note them. Some have good signs, and some might be "where that cow is standing".
5. The night before I will cache google maps on my phone using the "OK maps" trick.

This should work great as long as I stay on course. The problem will be if I miss a turn. First, I need to realize I missed a turn, and second, figure out how to correct it. I've just decided not to miss any turns. My son will be navigating. He's good at that, plus he's going to stay alert and make sure I'm driving in the right (wait, no, left) lane.

I noticed one out of the way place we're going in Ireland that google maps keeps giving me different directions. In one place it just says "turn right". No name or number, because it seems like there isn't one. I rerouted to a very slightly longer route that mostly follows the same road. There were also a couple places in Scotland where it had me taking a lot of back roads instead of just taking a few more minutes on main roads. I know there's some charm in seeing those spots, but there's not so much charm in getting lost or having a local getting mad being stuck behind me as I drive slowly looking for a turn that's miles (oops, kilometres) away.
I bought GPSNav II for a few bucks and download European maps (each continent cost a few bucks) then you download maps for where you are going. this allows navigation without cellular data turned on. You ned to find and save favorites that you want to enter in as destinations whie you have WIFI. If you do the app works great. Global data costs a bundle.
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I bought GPSNav II for a few bucks and download European maps (each continent cost a few bucks) then you download maps for where you are going. this allows navigation without cellular data turned on. You ned to find and save favorites that you want to enter in as destinations whie you have WIFI. If you do the app works great. Global data costs a bundle.
That sounds worthwhile. So I can enter my destinations from home or at the hotel with wifi, then use GPS on the road to track me without using any data?
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I'm always arguing with my GPS in the US! It's great having an automaton to argue about directions with.
Our tom tom can load different voices (and different languages.
Prior to our last Italy trip I had it in Italian mode just to beef up my directions vocabulary.

We debated purchasing the add on voice of Yota. You can get samples on their website. Instead of saying
"Turn right in 200 feet" it might say "Anticipate the turn to the right, I would."

You can even get the yota voice in a foreign language. My bff is fluent in Italian and we had her listen to Darth Vader in Italian (samples from the website) She was cracking up.
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I have not done this, but it might help in a general sense:

Mark up a paper map (or stored editable digital one) with GPS co-ordinates - either a matrix, or key points along the way.

Now, you can at least tell where you are if you can get your GPS to show you the current co-ordinates. That will at least get you located on your map.

That's not going to help for 'turn here', but it might help you figure out where you are if lost.

Handy tip - Bookmark this -

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javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
bring up a google map, select that bookmark and it will provide GPS co-ordinates from the center of the map.

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Old 05-28-2014, 11:23 AM   #29
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had a garmin that I went to update (US only) cuz it'd been a couple years. it told me the update wouldn't fit cuz the memory was full. it gave me choices of Eastern US, Western US, maybe others, but I chose Eastern cuz that's where I would use it at street level more. so I'm thinking it would UPDATE the E US only and leave the rest alone... but NO.O.O.ooo; get across the Mississippi and it's worthless

so I saw another one cheap at Woot and ordered it. brand new out of box I went to update (think it might have been a refurb) and upon completion, it's FULL again!! but this one tells me I can put an SD card in it. WHA..?!?! could I have done that with the original one? never know I guess; didn't look into it since I had "new" one

bottom line - check to see if your gps will take an SD card if it states it's full or can't take an update for lack of room
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had a garmin that I went to update (US only) cuz it'd been a couple years. it told me the update wouldn't fit cuz the memory was full. it gave me choices of Eastern US, Western US, maybe others, but I chose Eastern cuz that's where I would use it at street level more. so I'm thinking it would UPDATE the E US only and leave the rest alone... but NO.O.O.ooo; get across the Mississippi and it's worthless

so I saw another one cheap at Woot and ordered it. brand new out of box I went to update (think it might have been a refurb) and upon completion, it's FULL again!! but this one tells me I can put an SD card in it. WHA..?!?! could I have done that with the original one? never know I guess; didn't look into it since I had "new" one

bottom line - check to see if your gps will take an SD card if it states it's full or can't take an update for lack of room
Yep. I bought a refurbished older unit and knew that I would need an SD card to get any of the updated maps. We had an extra card unused at home, so it worked out well.
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That sounds worthwhile. So I can enter my destinations from home or at the hotel with wifi, then use GPS on the road to track me without using any data?
Yes. I think you can also click on a map location and navigate to it at any time but you can't effectively search unless you have data access through wifi or cellular. I have used the app numerous times to figure out where I am in a city (one tap and the map will follow you, two and it will follow you with north oriented up on the screen). On a trip to New Zealand I entered my hotels and some restaurants I wanted to visit before leaving and drove all over the country to the designated locations with turn by turn navigation - very nice. It also has a route function that can be set to car, foot, or bike. Nice for walking back to a hotel if you get lost. As others noted, navigation apps burn up battery power. I take a car accessory plug/USB cable and a window mount holder, for trips that involve a car. For my upcoming car-less trip to London and Berlin I am taking a small supplemental battery pack/charger that I will keep topped up and carry in my back pack.

I noted that I called it GPS Nav II but I just looked at the Apple Store and realize it is Skobbler GPS Navigation. They also have ForeverMap 2 -- Worldwide Offline Maps but I would check with Skobbler by email before getting that. I got ForeverMap 1 but the US version could not get world wide maps so I got GPS Nav. I think they may have unified the code base now but I am not sure.
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had a garmin that I went to update (US only) cuz it'd been a couple years. it told me the update wouldn't fit cuz the memory was full. it gave me choices of Eastern US, Western US, maybe others, but I chose Eastern cuz that's where I would use it at street level more. so I'm thinking it would UPDATE the E US only and leave the rest alone... but NO.O.O.ooo; get across the Mississippi and it's worthless

so I saw another one cheap at Woot and ordered it. brand new out of box I went to update (think it might have been a refurb) and upon completion, it's FULL again!! but this one tells me I can put an SD card in it. WHA..?!?! could I have done that with the original one? never know I guess; didn't look into it since I had "new" one

bottom line - check to see if your gps will take an SD card if it states it's full or can't take an update for lack of room
Most Garmin would require an SD card to load the full update. They should include a MicroSD card with the unit and add $5 to the cost of the unit. I have three units and every single one needed a card after the first or second update.
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