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Old 06-07-2016, 06:20 PM   #21
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Then, one has to price out the 1st class seat for Phoenix/Chicago. Some money may still be saved, but it probably involves more long layovers.

It's OK. Come to think of it, people on the east coast will pay back when they want to go to Hawaii, Australia, or to the Orient.

It's just that I have had more trips going east than crossing the Pacific Ocean.
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I looked more closely, and found that the $1600 business-class airfare for Chicago/Rome was a special deal from Air Berlin. The normal airfare is around $3500, which is more commensurate with the $4100 airfare for Phoenix/Rome.

Oh well. With this kind of rate, it will be a long time before I can get out of the coach class, which is a mere $732. By the way, I learned that there's even a non-stop flight for Chicago/Rome.
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Yes. Cheap airfares if one must sit in bad seats is no deal, IMHO. People of height are especially sensitive to this. There are plenty of ways to save money on vacation. But, cramped seats on a long overseas flight is not one of them.
I guess I haven't had trouble getting the Europe seats I wanted as long as I had a couple of months, and much less time required to get decent domestic seats. We're always buying economy plus seats (this year I used a subscription), and there are usually plenty left that far ahead, although I admit our return from BCN only had two pairs of reclining KL seats left in economy plus and I was glad to be able to nab one of them. None left on the AB side. (767-300)

I usually try to have us flying on Tuesdays or Wednesdays when planes aren't quite as full. Although some legs, like IAH to AMS seem to usually fly packed no matter what day of the week.
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Audrey1's advice is the OP is timely and makes sense. On the other hand, sometimes it also makes sense to book a deal when it looks good, even at the risk of missing on a better deal down the road.

We are headed to Germany July and in February I was able to book 2 refundable business class fares for a bit more than double the non-refundable coach fare. I have looked at fares since then and seen a few business class fares a bit cheaper, but nothing refundable even comes close in any class, and there is a very small chance of a last minute change in plans, so the full refund matters.
Whoa - I haven't seen anything like that, let alone refundable. Yes - I'd jump on it too!

United offered us to upgrade to business class for $6,700 per person on our $653 economy tickets when we purchased - ROTFLOL! I'm pretty sure I saw $4,800 offered through google flights. Maybe that was a refundable price - LOL!
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I looked more closely, and found that the $1600 business-class airfare for Chicago/Rome was a special deal from Air Berlin. The normal airfare is around $3500, which is more commensurate with the $4100 airfare for Phoenix/Rome.

Oh well. With this kind of rate, it will be a long time before I can get out of the coach class, which is a mere $732. By the way, I learned that there's even a non-stop flight for Chicago/Rome.
I just bought 2 bulkhead seats on a MSP-London for 99 dollars each way per seat. I happen to believe it's a great value. I think many airlines offer this under different names. That's one reason I don't wait for last minute fare drops, my SIL was on this flight last year for a last minute business trip and even with some status on Delta ended up in the middle seat on a row of 5...I'd pay plenty to avoid that happening to me.

Keep an eye on what theDelta Comfort+ customers will enjoy:

More legroom and on select longer flights, extra recline

Premium snacks and complimentary Starbucks®, beer, wine and spirits on most flights*

Seat location toward the front of the plane which means customers are among the first off

Access to Sky Priority® boarding and dedicated overhead bin space which means customers will be among the first on the plane to get their carry-on stowed**

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$199 RT to London! OMG!
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I agree, Sweet, I've paid 130 RT for some 1500 miles domestic trips. I thought it was under priced another reason I was ready to buy after you told us about the sale.
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Totally amazing!

Now, imagine if you can buy low/sell high cheap airline seats like you do stocks.
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Totally amazing!

Now, imagine if you can buy low/sell high cheap airline seats like you do stocks.
In case my post was misunderstood, because I wasn't specific enough the 198 was for the comfort plus upgrade, not the ticket price. Sorry if I confused anybody..The fees for a MSP-London ticket are 227 RT so a 200 dollar ticket isn't even possible!
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In case my post was misunderstood, because I wasn't specific enough the 198 was for the comfort plus upgrade, not the ticket price. Sorry if I confused anybody..The fees for a MSP-London ticket are 227 RT so a 200 dollar ticket isn't even possible!
Well - you had me there. My mind was blown!

I'm used to paying plenty for economy plus upgrades on international RT flights, so the subscription for E+ quickly pays for itself. I about broke even buying the subscription for a RT to Hawaii earlier this year, so no more E+ upgrade fees this year and I was able to pick our seats even before paying for the tickets.
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BTW - our tickets were $653 yesterday, $1112 today.

Which with a Saturday flight out I would have considered a quite decent price as they were higher the last two years.
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Well - you had me there. My mind was blown!

I'm used to paying plenty for economy plus upgrades on international RT flights, so the subscription for E+ quickly pays for itself. I about broke even buying the subscription for a RT to Hawaii earlier this year, so no more E+ upgrade fees this year and I was able to pick our seats even before paying for the tickets.
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