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London just left the bucket list
06-03-2017, 05:04 PM
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London just left the bucket list
I just got a flash on my laptop about bad news for pedestrians in London. If i want a crazy to run me over ill stay home and save the airfare.
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06-03-2017, 05:50 PM
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2 incidents today, not just one. I'm glad I was there 6 weeks last year with my family. London Bridge and a Borough market, we went walking there.
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06-03-2017, 05:59 PM
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This is awful but I will not let this deter me from travels. I feel this is letting them win. No offence intended to the OP. Just wanted to state my view.
I am grateful for the people who maintain their plans. And for the recent heroes in Portland who defended the Muslim women.
I hope this craziness stops in my lifetime. Not sure this post fits here. If not, feel free to delete.
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06-03-2017, 06:05 PM
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Statistically speaking the risk is probably much higher for getting injured in a traffic accident, maybe getting hit by an American who can't figure out a left-hand roundabout.
Seriously, the rest of the world thinks every street corner in the US features battling drug gangs with assault rifles. It's the press that gets people spun up, not the reality of the risk.
I don't think I'd head for Syria or Sudan right now but if we hadn't already been to Egypt I'd be considering it and looking for the bargains that are undoubtedly available. London, with the weak pound, is more attractive than it has been in years. We've already been there a couple of times, though.
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06-03-2017, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldShooter
Statistically speaking the risk is probably much higher for getting injured in a traffic accident, maybe getting hit by an American who can't figure out a left-hand roundabout.
Seriously, the rest of the world thinks every street corner in the US features battling drug gangs with assault rifles. It's the press that gets people spun up, not the reality of the risk.
I don't think I'd head for Syria or Sudan right now but if we hadn't already been to Egypt I'd be considering it and looking for the bargains that are undoubtedly available. London, with the weak pound, is more attractive than it has been in years. We've already been there a couple of times, though.
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I cant remember see any timeshares in Syria, but ill skip those too.
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06-03-2017, 06:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldShooter
Statistically speaking the risk is probably much higher for getting injured in a traffic accident, maybe getting hit by an American who can't figure out a left-hand roundabout.
Seriously, the rest of the world thinks every street corner in the US features battling drug gangs with assault rifles. It's the press that gets people spun up, not the reality of the risk.
I don't think I'd head for Syria or Sudan right now but if we hadn't already been to Egypt I'd be considering it and looking for the bargains that are undoubtedly available. London, with the weak pound, is more attractive than it has been in years. We've already been there a couple of times, though.
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Well said.
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06-03-2017, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davef
This is awful but I will not let this deter me from travels. I feel this is letting them win. No offence intended to the OP. Just wanted to state my view.
I am grateful for the people who maintain their plans. And for the recent heroes in Portland who defended the Muslim women.
I hope this craziness stops in my lifetime. Not sure this post fits here. If not, feel free to delete.
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The second paragraph seems off topic but its cool, no offense taken.
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06-03-2017, 06:40 PM
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We're headed to London a week from Monday, for five nights before we leave on a cruise. That is if I can get DW on the airplane. Of course, with British Airways it'll probably be cancelled.
Seriously though, I don't want this to get in the way of people traveling. I lived in England in the 80s when the IRA and Libya were causing problems. I didn't let that terrorism affect any travel plans then and won't now.
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06-03-2017, 07:20 PM
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Go to London. Go to Paris. Travel.
We were in London last year and took the Eurostar from London to Paris on the same day the terrorists hit Belgium. A few days later when they broke up that terrorist cell in Paris, it was about 8 miles from my hotel. My daughter did a German exchange right at the time there were attacks on women going on in Germany.
I was concerned sending her to Germany at that time. Its all disconcerting as a traveler and absolutely maddening as a citizen but its no reason to not travel and see the world. The people are delightful and the experiences are great. I have memories with my family that are irreplaceable.
I would be saddened indeed if I had traded those memories over marginal fears.
Screw 'em. Travel and live.
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06-03-2017, 08:18 PM
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It's easy to focus on these terrible events when they are on the news channels 24 hours a day. But this is a very big world, and the risk of being involved in a terrorist incident is very low in the grand scheme of things.
With that being said, I tend to avoid areas that are known for being extremely high traffic areas. Mostly because I don't like crowds, but I suppose the terrorism threat goes through the back of my mind in these areas just a bit.
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06-03-2017, 08:23 PM
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We're off to London in July. Very much looking forward to it.
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06-03-2017, 08:30 PM
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This is London on December 29, 1940, during what was the 114th straight night of being bombed during the Blitz. Londoners did not cower or cringe then, they aren't now and won't anytime in the foreseeable future. They keep calm and carry on. So should you.
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06-03-2017, 08:39 PM
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Nice to be told by our superiors what we should feel and how we should behave. God knows how any of us has managed to blunder along so long on our own!
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06-03-2017, 08:44 PM
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No problem. I'll go to London on your behalf. I still haven't visited the Tower of London.
And I'm so glad I didn't miss Nice last year. Great city and surrounds.
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06-03-2017, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldShooter
Statistically speaking the risk is probably much higher for getting injured in a traffic accident, maybe getting hit by an American who can't figure out a left-hand roundabout.
Seriously, the rest of the world thinks every street corner in the US features battling drug gangs with assault rifles. It's the press that gets people spun up, not the reality of the risk.
I don't think I'd head for Syria or Sudan right now but if we hadn't already been to Egypt I'd be considering it and looking for the bargains that are undoubtedly available. London, with the weak pound, is more attractive than it has been in years. We've already been there a couple of times, though.
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Exactly. I'll happily go and roll those dice.
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06-03-2017, 09:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Collar Guy
I just got a flash on my laptop about bad news for pedestrians in London. If i want a crazy to run me over ill stay home and save the airfare.
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Was it ever on your bucket list? ....Never travel anywhere without paying attention to your surroundings and stay alert.
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06-03-2017, 09:22 PM
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I probably have PTSD, i remember when i first heard a plane fly over my house after 9/11. I jumped out of my skin. I also swear i see shark fins when im at the beach, i blame the movie Jaws on that.
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06-03-2017, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Collar Guy
I probably have PTSD, i remember when i first heard a plane fly over my house after 9/11. I jumped out of my skin.
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I think a lot of us did, even those of us who didn't live anywhere near NYC. I'm sure it was so much worse there.
Seems like each potential traveler can decide for himself (or herself) whether the slight to moderate stress he/she might feel when traveling to London or wherever, will mean that another destination might be more fun that year, or not. In my opinion it's not a matter of probabilities; it's a matter of how much it will detract from vacation fun for that individual.
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06-04-2017, 04:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Collar Guy
I probably have PTSD, i remember when i first heard a plane fly over my house after 9/11. I jumped out of my skin. I also swear i see shark fins when im at the beach, i blame the movie Jaws on that.
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Don't let it control you.
Vietnam combat vet here so I understand. But you can't let them win.
We had a trip scheduled to Oktoberfest in 2001, just a couple of weeks after 9/11. There were hardly any empty seats on the flight over; most others didn't cancel their plans either. We had a wonderful time. It was interesting to see the extra security, too. There were German Air Force armored personnel carriers patrolling the perimeter of the Munich airport, and that gave us a good feeling.
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06-04-2017, 05:06 AM
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I spent 27 years being raised, living and working in London before I left for Canada & The States. It STILL brings a few tears to my eyes when I walk across Tower Bridge..... Nostalgic Tears that is.
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