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08-03-2017, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ExFlyBoy5
I would be ready for some um...interesting...traffic behavior during this period. You couldn't pay me enough to be anywhere on an interstate during that time if it's in the totality area.
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I'd say if you drove up the Interstate from a big city like Atlanta, you'd get some traffic, but I just don't see that traffic is going to be a huge deal, for the most part; not everybody in the country even cares to witness it and there's no shortage of places to view it. Yeah, places like downtown Charleston are going to be a zoo, but there are thousands of rural roads where people can hang out, and even Interstates have so many miles of totality that you probably don't need to be near anyone.
For instance, I-85, north of Atlanta, there's more than 60 miles of road where you could stop and get totality. The amateurs will probably all pile in the middle, but being in the center just buys you a couple extra seconds. It's actually cooler to be on an edge, since the edge effects last longer there.
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08-03-2017, 06:54 PM
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#163
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Originally Posted by sengsational
For instance, I-85, north of Atlanta, there's more than 60 miles of road where you could stop and get totality. The amateurs will probably all pile in the middle, but being in the center just buys you a couple extra seconds. It's actually cooler to be on an edge, since the edge effects last longer there.
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Good thought. I was also using the map referenced by Galaxyboy at USA - 2017 August 21 Total Solar Eclipse - Interactive Google Map - Xavier Jubier
If you click up and down I-85 it shows the duration of totality and it does not vary that much until you get near the "edge". So instead of Clemson/Anderson I may head up to Greenville.
Does anyone know if the north-east or south-west edge is better for diamond ring and Bailey's beads?
On the other hand, my buddy who grew up in that part of SC said go to Clemson - Eclipse | Clemson University, South Carolina We've always been the type to avoid crowds but for this it could be fun.
Regarding traffic and the crazy interstates, no matter what we're driving from Atlanta to DC on the 21st after dropping of DS#2 at GATech, so we're on for the eclipse regardless.
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08-04-2017, 07:41 AM
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#164
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In advance of the upcoming eclipse, a great deal of media attention is focusing on local resident Fred Espenak (Mr. Eclipse), and much of this attention is happening right here in Portal. Here are some things to watch for.
https://www.cnet.com/news/total-sola...-august-21-us/
An interview with CBS will be broadcast August 13, on CBS Sunday Morning.
A Today Show interview will be broadcast on August 21.
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08-04-2017, 08:02 AM
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#165
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Here's one review of solar exclipse glasses:
The Best Solar Eclipse Glasses and Filters | The Wirecutter
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we concluded that the Celestron EclipSmart 2x Power Viewers are the best way to view the sun as total eclipse approaches. They offer just enough magnification to make things interesting while complying with all the relevant ISO safety standards.
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08-04-2017, 10:21 AM
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#166
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I'd be prepared for the worst. Have a full tank of gas, water, and snacks, and something to keep you occupied if things come to a standstill. Maybe it'll be fine, but I think the odds of problems are way greater than normal.
And don't be stupid like I was in an I-81 tie-up last year. I turned my car off but left the key in the ignition, which in my Subaru keeps the lights on with the setting I use. 90 minutes later, I went to start it--nothing. Luckily the guy behind me was willing to jump start me, and also traffic only moved 200 yards for some reason before stopping again, so I didn't really make things worse.
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08-04-2017, 02:16 PM
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#167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USGrant1962
I just realized that I'll be driving from Atlanta to DC on the 21st! So I get my choice to target I-75 in Sweetwater/Cleveland TN or I-85 in Clemson/Anderson SC to view it.
Time for some research, and to get some shades
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Suggest I-75 (?)
I-85 is congested on it's best days - could be a real tommyknocker for the big E. It would be disappointing to be stuck in gridlock 10 miles before the totality zone.
We're spending the night prior in Asheville, and may motor west or south to get to the 100% areas. But, if Monday morning traffic to the sweet spots is a zombie apocalypse, we'll "shelter in place."
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08-04-2017, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Badger
I-85 is congested on it's best days - could be a real tommyknocker for the big E. It would be disappointing to be stuck in gridlock 10 miles before the totality zone.
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True, I-85 can be horrific. I'd start PLENTY early, put a destination into my GPS/SatNav (w/live traffic route adjustment) and do what it says. You certainly don't want to be stuck on an Interstate with no way to get off, so check traffic on your GPS make sure you don't get stuck.
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08-04-2017, 02:50 PM
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All this talk about driving and finding the right spot is making me feel real good about my location. Drive to my friends farm on Saturday ( 1hour away in nowhere MO with 2+ minutes of totality!), stay in our camper, party with friends for a few days, see the eclipse, drive home Tuesday.
Easy Peasy.
On a side note, I have heard (3rd hand) of some school districts that are cancelling school because they do not want the liability of a student looking at the eclipse. FWIW, I have not seen a verified news story, so I hope this is hokum.
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08-04-2017, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CardsFan
On a side note, I have heard (3rd hand) of some school districts that are cancelling school because they do not want the liability of a student looking at the eclipse. FWIW, I have not seen a verified news story, so I hope this is hokum.
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Actually, this may be a very wise move on their part. School districts are seen as having deep pockets and being EZ to sue.
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08-04-2017, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CardsFan
On a side note, I have heard (3rd hand) of some school districts that are cancelling school because they do not want the liability of a student looking at the eclipse. FWIW, I have not seen a verified news story, so I hope this is hokum.
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School closings for Aug. 21 total solar eclipse | FOX2now.com
It's true. I don't really think it's a bad idea. It's a case of there's no right vs wrong or Good vs Bad here. If the school would have any liability for Wally or The Beav looking into the sun without the special glasses, why assume liability you don't have to? What's the law in that area say about it? If some school board thinks it's a low prob event and they want to go with it.... go with it.
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08-04-2017, 04:33 PM
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#172
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Originally Posted by CardsFan
All this talk about driving and finding the right spot is making me feel real good about my location. Drive to my friends farm on Saturday ( 1hour away in nowhere MO with 2+ minutes of totality!), stay in our camper, party with friends for a few days, see the eclipse, drive home Tuesday.
Easy Peasy.
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Sounds perfect!
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08-04-2017, 06:06 PM
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#173
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Originally Posted by razztazz
School closings for Aug. 21 total solar eclipse | FOX2now.com
It's true. I don't really think it's a bad idea. It's a case of there's no right vs wrong or Good vs Bad here. If the school would have any liability for Wally or The Beav looking into the sun without the special glasses, why assume liability you don't have to? What's the law in that area say about it? If some school board thinks it's a low prob event and they want to go with it.... go with it.
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I guess I'm showing my age. "Back in the day" this would have been an all school science project. Track the eclipse, document what happens, watch the eclipse and write a story about it! What did it look like? Did the animals really stop moving? Did it get cold? How cold?
Now we say, go inside, shut your eyes, don't look, and don't sue. What a shame.
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08-04-2017, 06:15 PM
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#174
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Originally Posted by FiveDriver
Somebody on this thread posted a link to a terrific map which showed the progress of this Eclipse with a little symbol of the darkened Sun on the Map.
Of course, if you want to hide something.....put it on the internet and don't bookmark it !!
Does anybody recall that linky ??
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I think this is the one.
USA - 2017 August 21 Total Solar Eclipse - Interactive Google Map - Xavier Jubier
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08-04-2017, 06:26 PM
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#175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CardsFan
I guess I'm showing my age. "Back in the day" this would have been an all school science project. Track the eclipse, document what happens, watch the eclipse and write a story about it! What did it look like? Did the animals really stop moving? Did it get cold? How cold?
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Yes, yes, yes!!! And more.
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Originally Posted by CardsFan
Now we say, go inside, shut your eyes, don't look, and don't sue. What a shame.
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We had it great, and lived in the best and most amazing time, when events like this were tremendous educational opportunities for kids. Being a kid today is pretty tough.
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08-04-2017, 06:45 PM
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#176
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W2R
We had it great, and lived in the best and most amazing time, when events like this were tremendous educational opportunities for kids. Being a kid today is pretty tough.
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I agree, but it seems it came in 1/2 a generation. My son was born in 1981 and was able to live a similar life. Take off with friends, ride bikes all day, roam from house to house and generally not need to check in every 5 minutes. Now we had a saying in the neighborhood that if you screw up, we will know it before you get home (and it was true).
I would like to believe, when he was was in school, it would have been a big hurrah for the eclipse, but if not, I know we would have had a neighborhood block party and done all the educational things, because it would be FUN.
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08-04-2017, 07:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CardsFan
I guess I'm showing my age. "Back in the day" this would have been an all school science project. Track the eclipse, document what happens, watch the eclipse and write a story about it! What did it look like? Did the animals really stop moving? Did it get cold? How cold?
Now we say, go inside, shut your eyes, don't look, and don't sue. What a shame.
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Yes. Like, what's your age? A 100? Silly make-work tedious projects for kids. All those questions and more have been answered ad nauseum by science over 100's of years.
Now, you're right about the sueing part. Hey, that's the way the world is. That's why I don't see it as a right vs wrong thing. The school boards know what they have to deal with. Assess the situation and proceed. Back out our day nobody sued over something like this (childhood tragedy/looking it an eclipse) but those days are gone. Was just speaking to my brother moments ago about our childhood riding in a Studebaker and watching father top off the water in the battery.
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08-04-2017, 08:27 PM
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#178
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Note that at the bottom of the quoted article it said that several school districts WERE planning on having educational events for their students who would indeed be attending school that day. I'm glad I never viewed science excercises as "make work." How sad!
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08-04-2017, 08:45 PM
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I'm glad I never viewed science excercises as "make work." How sad!
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I never did either. but much of what we did in school was wheel spinning. Moving the crap from one side of the warehouse to the other.
And yes, as you said self-brain-washing to feel good about whatever you're stuck with has helped humankind since day 1
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08-05-2017, 06:56 AM
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#180
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Originally Posted by GalaxyBoy
Note that at the bottom of the quoted article it said that several school districts WERE planning on having educational events for their students who would indeed be attending school that day. I'm glad I never viewed science excercises as "make work." How sad!
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Yeah, why waste the kids' time? Instead of experiential learning from a possible once in a lifetime event, they can stay inside the classroom and Google it. Better yet, Xbox, et al can make a video game with tons of inaccuracies, distortions, and maybe some needless violence. The kids could stay in their rooms and veg out further.
Seriously, it's telling insight on our society that schools (GOVCORP) and parents would have to conclude that possible litigation would be cause for cancelling school on what is a (potentially) tremendous "real world" and hands on learning event.
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