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Old 06-04-2015, 08:43 PM   #21
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And pre check is a scam. Simply waive your constitutional rights and pay a fee and you can go back to what flying was like 15 years ago!
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:36 PM   #22
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And pre check is a scam. Simply waive your constitutional rights and pay a fee and you can go back to what flying was like 15 years ago!

I admit I only use it because I have Global Trusted Traveler. And yeah, the background check and all that was annoying, but it was actually less intensive than the five pages of questions that I had to answer to get a Russian tourist visa.
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And pre check is a scam. Simply waive your constitutional rights and pay a fee and you can go back to what flying was like 15 years ago!
It's worse than that; there weren't enough paying pre-Check customers so the Pre-Check lines were underutilized and they decided to let others in on a semi-random basis. That's what's been happening to me the few times I fly, because I have a long track record of flying, with low-tier Elite status on 2 airlines in some years. Of course, the folks who didn't expect it and didn't see it on their boarding pass (like me the first time) hold up the pre-check lines by taking off their shoes and hauling out their computer and freedom baggie for inspection.
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And pre check is a scam. Simply waive your constitutional rights and pay a fee and you can go back to what flying was like 15 years ago!

What fee The last time I flew I was pre check and I have not paid a penny...
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Indeed, I'm not exactly a frequent flyer, but I almost always fly UnAmerican Airlines, and the past year or two I've been designated as pre-checked. Wouldn't pay for it, that's for sure...
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What fee The last time I flew I was pre check and I have not paid a penny...
There are several ways to get into a pre-check line. These are the ones I know of:
1) have "elite" status on an airline that has made a deal with TSA -- this is currently being reduced though
2) have a "known traveler number" and enter it when you purchase your ticket (you get a ktn by enrolling in Global Entry, Nexxus, Sentri, or pre-check programs; or by being a DoD employee)
3) get randomly selected by a screener at the airport

Last year, when I was traveling a lot for business and was usually alone, I got routed into the pre-check lane many times via method 3. I definitely liked it better than being irradiated and groped, but wasn't willing to pay for it.

Then I got a new credit card where one of the perks is reimbursement of the Global Entry sign-up fee. Since that made it free, DH and I both signed up and now we get pre-check on every flight.

It's a sad waste of taxpayer time and money though, that DHS, who issued my currently active government security clearance, doesn't share their data with Customs, which is part of the same organization and are the ones who issue the Global Entry cards. They already had my fingerprints and answers to all the questions they asked me in the Global Entry interview, plus a whole lot more.
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It's a sad waste of taxpayer time and money though, that DHS, who issued my currently active government security clearance, doesn't share their data with Customs, which is part of the same organization and are the ones who issue the Global Entry cards. They already had my fingerprints and answers to all the questions they asked me in the Global Entry interview, plus a whole lot more.
At one point I was entitled to travel internationally with an official passport and had been background checked and fingerprinted by a federal law enforcement unit as part of clearance for my job. When I travelled domestically for said job I got groped, irradiated and had my Constitutional rights violated like everyone else.

I travel via airplane under duress these days.
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