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Old 07-15-2016, 03:00 PM   #141
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OK, so what really makes people travel?

People who dislike travel can add the following to the list in the OP

1) They are bored at home

2) They do not know what else to spend their money on

3) They want to escape the miserable weather at home, whether too hot, too cold, too humid, or too dry

4) They are masochistic, and want to punish themselves with the hassle of going through the airport security and the tedium of air travel

5) They are thrill seekers, and want to go to other places in the world where they can get robbed, possibly assaulted and hurt

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6) They want to visit family

7) They want to visit interesting places they have read about, or seen in movies or on the news

8) They are pursuing a special interest, e.g. skiing, Italian cooking, seeing wild animals, archaeology, volunteering, etc.
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7) They want to visit interesting places they have read about.
This sums it up for me.
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Old 07-15-2016, 03:13 PM   #143
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OK, so what really makes people travel?

People who dislike travel can add the following to the list in the OP

1) They are bored at home

2) They do not know what else to spend their money on

3) They want to escape the miserable weather at home, whether too hot, too cold, too humid, or too dry

4) They are masochistic, and want to punish themselves with the hassle of going through the airport security and the tedium of air travel

5) They are thrill seekers, and want to go to other places in the world where they can get robbed, possibly assaulted and hurt

Is there anything I miss?
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7) They want to visit interesting places they have read about, or seen in movies or on the news

8) They are pursuing a special interest, e.g. skiing, Italian cooking, seeing wild animals, archaeology, volunteering, etc.
Definitely want to visit places I've read about, mainly to satisfy hiking, sightseeing, and photography interests.

I've run out interesting places around here to hike and take photos, so I have to travel to find new ones.
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4) They are masochistic, and want to punish themselves with the hassle of going through the airport security and the tedium of air travel
We've countered this by amassing various perks that reduce the hassles of flying dramatically - things like TSA Pre-check and Global Entry, economy plus and/or cheap upgrades when available, club access for layovers in comfort, premium lines and premium baggage handling for reducing waiting significantly.

I don't mind the hours in a plane considering the benefits when we arrive. The magic of iPad - a great plane companion.
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6) They want to visit family

7) They want to visit interesting places they have read about, or seen in movies or on the news

8) They are pursuing a special interest, e.g. skiing, Italian cooking, seeing wild animals, archaeology, volunteering, etc.
These are excellent additions - and really the only ones that count for us.

We really enjoy being in a different culture for a while. We enjoy the European culture and all the little day to day details of different types of meals, different transportation, different things to see. I'll be curious whether South and Central American culture will be the same.

We even enjoy dealing in another language. I speak pretty good Castillian Spanish, good for most of Latin America and Spain. I've really been working on my French - I'm already well past where I was last year with my tourist polite French arsenal that was quite well received wherever we traveled in France.

So maybe:

9) immerse in a different environment/culture for a while.
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8) They are pursuing a special interest, e.g. skiing, Italian cooking, seeing wild animals, archaeology, volunteering, etc.
Add running to that. I try to do a destination race every year.
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I spent much of my professional life running through airports, and have seen all of the lower 48, and much of eastern Canada and western Europe. I would be happy to never leave Florida again. Nowadays I travel to see people, not sights.
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Why stay home looking a four walls?

Travelled for business, now we travel for pleasure. As often as possible. Lots to see and experience.
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I spent much of my professional life running through airports, and have seen all of the lower 48, and much of eastern Canada and western Europe. I would be happy to never leave Florida again. Nowadays I travel to see people, not sights.
Business travel is not really travel. I did a substantial amount of it. In the end, I felt that every airport, every cab to and from the city, every hotel, every law firm conference room and every courthouse looked the same. It was just a source of annoyance rather than a chance to have new experiences. I did my work in the least amount of time I could and went back home as soon as possible. When I travel for pleasure, the experience is totally different.
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Business travel is not really travel. I did a substantial amount of it. In the end, I felt that every airport, every cab to and from the city, every hotel, every law firm conference room and every courthouse looked the same. It was just a source of annoyance rather than a chance to have new experiences. I did my work in the least amount of time I could and went back home as soon as possible. When I travel for pleasure, the experience is totally different.


I can't say that. I tried to make a point of seeing the places I went on business, and I tended to be in one place for days a a time. Due to the nature of my business, I spent a lot of time on college campuses, which were generally lovely. But this is one case where I agree with Jacob of ERE. Wherever you go, there you are.
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Business travel is not really travel. I did a substantial amount of it. In the end, I felt that every airport, every cab to and from the city, every hotel, every law firm conference room and every courthouse looked the same. It was just a source of annoyance rather than a chance to have new experiences. I did my work in the least amount of time I could and went back home as soon as possible. When I travel for pleasure, the experience is totally different.
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The second was a red eye to Montreal, where i had a meeting then went back to the airport. I ordered a lobster sandwich for lunch, and since the receipt was in French, they did not know what I had
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While not quite the same thing, I took my daughter to Europe with me last year for a few weeks. It was an eye opener for her also. The evenings out on the busy streets with people enjoying themselves were particularly fun. Also, we spent some time in France and a lot of time in Italy, and she is now spoiled when it comes to good food
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Travel has changed the way we think, the way we eat, the way we live.

All for the better. And it makes us appreciate what we have and at the same time realize that many of the material things we own really don't matter a toss.
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Business travel is not really travel. I did a substantial amount of it. In the end, I felt that every airport, every cab to and from the city, every hotel, every law firm conference room and every courthouse looked the same. It was just a source of annoyance rather than a chance to have new experiences. I did my work in the least amount of time I could and went back home as soon as possible. When I travel for pleasure, the experience is totally different.

I definitely had some experiences like that. When you're in a windowless "ballroom" in the basement of a hotel with someone droning over PowerPoint presentations, does it really matter if it's Boston or San Juan? Well, maybe it's more depressing if it's San Juan.

Still, I've been fortunate. As a salaried employee (thus not focused on billable time), I've been to lovely restaurants in Europe, to the Taj Mahal with colleagues in India who were also visiting for the first time, to Munich on a trip that was so much fun (even though we accomplished the business purpose) I told my boss I felt guilty submitting an expense account...I could go on. I also got a kick out of getting up, putting on business clothes and going to the office on public transportation with the locals. My favorite was working for a company based in the Gherkin in London- the tourists would be outside taking selfies and I'd flounce past them into the building!

I still get little twinges of jealousy when former colleagues post from London or Bangalore or Zurich, but then I remember they have to set their alarm clocks and I don't.
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Funny story. We sent our daughter to Europe for High School credit courses. French in Nice and History in UK. She loved it. Sorry we didn't send her to Switzerland for her senior year at Neuschatel ( sp?). She still talks about these trips 15 years later. She really grew up on those trips.
I got a summer job with the Defense Research Board in Metz after 3rd year Engineering. 5 months of pleasure: Belgium, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Italy and multiple trips to Paris and Strasburg. Life-changing experiences. Plus permanently stricken with the travel bug.
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All for the better. And it makes us appreciate what we have and at the same time realize that many of the material things we own really don't matter a toss.
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This thread made me think of a great line I heard from a German I was talking with.

He said "Do you know the essential difference between Europeans and North Americans?"

North Americans think 200 years is a long time.

Europeans think 200 kilometers is a long distance.
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The only business travel that I enjoyed were the reward trips, with spouse, to domestic and to some wonderful international locations....Hong Kong, Australia, Med locations, Hawaii, etc. All first class venues that we would normally not enjoy.

Of course there was always the challenge of sneaking out of those business meeting during the morning coffee break or getting up early and leaving the hotel in order to tour around. I could usually rely on someone to mark me down as present or hand in my business card! We invariably tacked on a week or so of vacation time while we were there.
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