Buchanan - Petraeus points to war with Iran

[Wags]

The World Net Daily has an article by the conservative Mr. Pat Buchanan - Petraeus points to war with Iran .

Petraeus points to war with Iran

Excerpts from the article

In early 2007, Nancy Pelosi pulled down a resolution that would have denied Bush the authority to attack Iran without congressional approval. In September, both Houses passed the Kyl-Lieberman resolution designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization.

Courtesy of Congress, Bush thus has a blank check for war on Iran. And the signs are growing that he intends to fill it in and cash it.

Israel has been hurling invective at Iran and conducting security drills to prepare its population for rocket barrages worse than those Hezbollah delivered in the Lebanon War.

Adm. William "Fox" Fallon, the Central Command head who opposed war with Iran, has been removed. Hamas and Hezbollah have been stocking up on Qassam and Katyusha rockets.

Vice President Cheney has lately toured Arab capitals.

And President Ahmadinejad just made international headlines by declaring that Tehran will begin installing 6,000 advanced centrifuges to accelerate Iran's enrichment of uranium.

This is Bush's last chance to strike and, when Iran responds, to effect its nuclear castration. Are Bush and Cheney likely to pass up this last chance to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities and effect the election of John McCain? For any attack on Iran's "terrorist bases" would rally the GOP and drive a wedge between Obama and Hillary.

End of excerpts.

This article is not written by a so called far left liberal but instead it is written by a conservative who served as a senior adviser to American presidents, Nixon, Ford and Reagan.

With this being said one has to ask will the U>S go to WAR with Iran before the next President is sworn into office?

GOD BLESS US ALL

[Notmuchlonger]

Noway

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[newguy88]

Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger

Noway

I would be quite amazed if they did attack Iran, but then again did you here Bush today? he says alqeda in Iraq and Iran are the greatest threat to america in the world today.

Ya gotta be kidding, Iran a third world country with oil and alqeda in Iraq a bunch of thugs that need their rear ends torn new you know what.

China is the 5 letter word my friend China.

[poboy]

Unless Israel gets there first.

Iran will be the first nuclear state in history against which deterrence won't work, even if the deterrent is nuclear," Likud chairman Binyamin Netanyahu said Wednesday at an international conference titled "Russia, the Middle East and the Challenge of Radical Islam."

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[newguy88]

Originally Posted by poboy

Unless Israel gets there first.

Link

But then again, could Iran really be a suicide nation? Would they actually try to destroy Israel knowing that they the entire nation of Iran would be a nuclear inferno a few minutes after any missle was fired into Israel?

[retire@40]

Just a couple of weeks and I won't see this forum spam anymore. I can't wait.

[Notmuchlonger]

Originally Posted by retire@40

Just a couple of weeks and I won't see this forum spam anymore. I can't wait.

Sorry man just threw out some Metallica to liven things up. My apologies to you.

[newguy88]

Originally Posted by retire@40

Just a couple of weeks and I won't see this forum spam anymore. I can't wait.

Why call it spam? You might be retired or heading towards that time in your life but the world still goes round and round. This is an off topic section, why the bad attitude?

[Wags]

Originally Posted by retire@40

Just a couple of weeks and I won't see this forum spam anymore. I can't wait.

I guess you did not like Notmuchlonger's

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In a couple weeks are you going somewhere to where you won't have to see this forum spam anymore?

As newguy stated this is an other topic section of the forum. Hey let your hair down and try to enjoy the (2) songs.

GOD BLESS US ALL

[ladelfina]

This (OP) is very very disturbing.
I think the probability gets higher with each batch of poor economic news.
Who will be surprised by the next October Surprise?

My only hope is (should that black day come to pass) that it will backfire. I don't think the majority of Americans have the stomach for a doubling down of ME war with McCain at the helm. McCain is even less clear on who is Shia/Sunni than Bush.. and, should he ever emerge from the adoring press bubble, people will start to see how unstable he is.

Warmonger Bill Kristol ("independent journalist" -hah!) meeting in private with Bush to vet the latter's speech does not bode well.
Think Progress » Blog Archive » Lieberman, Bennett, And Kristol See Petraeus Hearing As ‘An Argument’ For ‘Going Into Iran’

You really have to wonder what these geniuses THOUGHT was going to happen when they pulled out the secular dictator keeping the 60% Shia majority under his thumb. On my more cynical and less charitable days I assume that they are not 100% idiots and that the entire Iraq pretense was to get to Iran sooner or later.

[newguy88]

Originally Posted by ladelfina

This (OP) is very very disturbing.
I think the probability gets higher with each batch of poor economic news.
Who will be surprised by the next October Surprise?

My only hope is (should that black day come to pass) that it will backfire. I don't think the majority of Americans have the stomach for a doubling down of ME war with McCain at the helm. McCain is even less clear on who is Shia/Sunni than Bush.. and, should he ever emerge from the adoring press bubble, people will start to see how unstable he is.

Warmonger Bill Kristol ("independent journalist" -hah!) meeting in private with Bush to vet the latter's speech does not bode well.
Think Progress » Blog Archive » Lieberman, Bennett, And Kristol See Petraeus Hearing As ‘An Argument’ For ‘Going Into Iran’

You really have to wonder what these geniuses THOUGHT was going to happen when they pulled out the secular dictator keeping the 60% Shia majority under his thumb. On my more cynical and less charitable days I assume that they are not 100% idiots and that the entire Iraq pretense was to get to Iran sooner or later.

It really is the evangelical jesus freak in these peoples minds that made them do the Iraqi thingy. They don't really care. They actually believe the stories from the bible literally. Oh and they buy into the armmegeddon stuff with Israel and the anti christ stuff.

[ladelfina]

newguy, I think that's only a minority (still significant in influence if not in numbers).. but it does help them with a certain subset of voters.

If anyone thinks newguy is merely exaggerating.. check out Michael Ledeen and his Jerusalem Temple deal.

[Wags]

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[igsoy]

Originally Posted by newguy888

It really is the evangelical jesus freak in these peoples minds that made them do the Iraqi thingy.

Uh-- no, newguy. These people don't worship jesus, they are just good at using people who do. They worship power, money, and the awesome power of fear to keep bringing them more power and more money.

[Wags]

Originally Posted by ladelfina

This (OP) is very very disturbing.
I think the probability gets higher with each batch of poor economic news.
Who will be surprised by the next October Surprise?

My only hope is (should that black day come to pass) that it will backfire. I don't think the majority of Americans have the stomach for a doubling down of ME war with McCain at the helm. McCain is even less clear on who is Shia/Sunni than Bush.. and, should he ever emerge from the adoring press bubble, people will start to see how unstable he is.

Warmonger Bill Kristol ("independent journalist" -hah!) meeting in private with Bush to vet the latter's speech does not bode well.
Think Progress » Blog Archive » Lieberman, Bennett, And Kristol See Petraeus Hearing As ‘An Argument’ For ‘Going Into Iran’

You really have to wonder what these geniuses THOUGHT was going to happen when they pulled out the secular dictator keeping the 60% Shia majority under his thumb. On my more cynical and less charitable days I assume that they are not 100% idiots and that the entire Iraq pretense was to get to Iran sooner or later.

Unfortuately it's people like Lieberman, Bennett and Kristol, who have the President's ear and with that being said there are at least 10 more months (including Apr) in which they can advise him on attacking Iran.

From some of the recent polls it appears that Americans are tired of the war and whatever support there was in the beginning for Mr. Bush's crusade it is going south.

We do not have any more troops to send to another WAR FRONT. As it stands now our Armed Forces are strained (at a breaking point)and some of our troops have been deployed to Iraq multiple times (2, 3, 4, and 5 times). Not only are our troops suffering but so are their families.

As for Mr. McCain if he is elected I would hope that he would learn from the recent history of how Mr. Bush has handled this war, of the cost in treasure and in the deaths and the injuring of our troops before he decides to listen to the NEACONS and we end up attacking Iran.

GOD BLESS US ALL

[samclem]

Originally Posted by newguy888

It really is the evangelical jesus freak in these peoples minds that made them do the Iraqi thingy. They don't really care. They actually believe the stories from the bible literally. Oh and they buy into the armmegeddon stuff with Israel and the anti christ stuff.

Same author, same day:

Originally Posted by newguy888

"But then again, could Iran really be a suicide nation? Would they actually try to destroy Israel knowing that they the entire nation of Iran would be a nuclear inferno a few minutes after any missle was fired into Israel?"

So, you think America is led by fundamentalists who believe their holy book is the literal word of God, but you can't believe the same thing is true of Iran?

[newguy88]

Originally Posted by samclem

Same author, same day:




So, you think America is led by fundamentalists who believe their holy book is the literal word of God, but you can't believe the same thing is true of Iran?

No sam hopefully the people in the country here will have the brains to remove the freaks from office.

Iran, yep they are sick sobs, but have no way to move past their religion. We can its called being secular. They cannot and will not, Islam read about it.

[ladelfina]

So, you think America is led by fundamentalists who believe their holy book is the literal word of God, but you can't believe the same thing is true of Iran?

Or Iraq? Somehow, there, religious conflicts were supposed to be brushed aside and they would all hold hands and spontaneously engage in secular, modern, Western-style democracy? It's gonna happen any day, I tell ya!!

To Iran, we brought the Shah, and Iranians overthrew him and now have a somewhat functioning kinda-democracy that looks bad to us but still pretty good by ME and Iraq standards. The swarthy heathens are redeemable, until they aren't? When are we going to figure out which of the two completely opposite viewpoints is going to serve as our working model? Now TPTB are trying to sell both lines simultaneously.

[Texarkandy]

Is that John McCain in the white shirt, tie, & ballcap?

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