Clinton to Richardson: 'Barack Obama Can't Win'

[DragoMuseveni]

And to think it is only April. I support Obama but I think I am going to be tired of seeing his face and hearing his voice by August or so. I think I may have to put my tv in a closet around then in order to get away from Obama and McCain...

Anyone want to place a bet on when the 2012 primary season starts if the democrats don't put in place reforms after this election. My bet is that Iowa holds its caucuses in August of 2011.

[clifp]

Originally Posted by DragoMuseveni

And to think it is only April. I support Obama but I think I am going to be tired of seeing his face and hearing his voice by August or so. I think I may have to put my tv in a closet around then in order to get away from Obama and McCain...

Anyone want to place a bet on when the 2012 primary season starts if the democrats don't put in place reforms after this election. My bet is that Iowa holds its caucuses in August of 2011.

Optimist put me down for Feb 2010 if the Democrats win the Whitehouse, Feb 2009 if McCain is president!

[youbet]

I think the Supreme Court should decided who the Dem nominee is!

[FinanceDude]

Originally Posted by youbet

I think the Supreme Court should decided who the Dem nominee is!

[Notmuchlonger]

Looks like Obama took the Reverend to task this morning. Obama would have been better served doing it from the start.

[youbet]

Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger

Looks like Obama took the Reverend to task this morning. Obama would have been better served doing it from the start.

Yes, indeed he did. I was surprised at the directness and tone he used in distancing himself from the good Reverend. His original speech, while impressive to read, left definite connections in place. Today he severed those connections.

[ERD50]

Originally Posted by youbet

Yes, indeed he did. I was surprised at the directness and tone he used in distancing himself from the good Reverend. His original speech, while impressive to read, left definite connections in place. Today he severed those connections.

He sure did. Not much 'wiggle room' in what Obama said:

But after watching three days of Mr. Wright’s commentary in televised speeches and interviews, Mr. Obama said, “there are no excuses.”


“They offend me, they rightly offend all Americans and they should be denounced,” he said. “That’s what I am doing very clearly and unequivocally here today.”

What exactly did Pastor Wright say in the past few days that made things any worse than they already were? I scanned a few articles, nothing jumped out at me?

-ERD50

[Notmuchlonger]

Not much different than what he has been saying. I dont get it either. Of course Im ignorant folk.

[youbet]

Originally Posted by ERD50

What exactly did Pastor Wright say in the past few days that made things any worse than they already were? I scanned a few articles, nothing jumped out at me?

-ERD50

He affirmed that he said that the govt invented AIDS to eliminate the black community and the govt puts drugs into black neighborhoods and that he meant what he said literally.

During his speech yesterday, Wright obviously was basking in the controversy and attempting to turn it up a notch, if that's possible.

[samclem]

Originally Posted by ERD50

What exactly did Pastor Wright say in the past few days that made things any worse than they already were? I scanned a few articles, nothing jumped out at me?

-ERD50

He didn't say anything different, except to imply that Obama was only distancing himself from Wright for political reasons (probably true--Wright was okay for 20 years, baptized Obama's kids, helped Obama gather the support of the black community to his political career--but all of a sudden the light comes on and Obama finds him objectionable-- puleeeese!)

The only thing Wright did was demonstrate that he was not going to shut up. Obama had hoped Wright would simply go into retirement, but when he started giving interviews and showed every sign of making some solid money from his temporary notoriety, Obama decided it was time to throw him under the bus.

Change we can believe in--sometimes it is suspicious in its suddenness.

[ERD50]

Originally Posted by youbet

During his speech yesterday, Wright obviously was basking in the controversy and attempting to turn it up a notch, if that's possible.

I did see some TV commentary, where the opinion was that Wright was enjoying the attention, even to the detriment of Obama. That's pretty ignorant/sad.

He affirmed that he said that the govt invented AIDS to eliminate the black community and the govt puts drugs into black neighborhoods and that he meant what he said literally.

Wow, that'll go over real good - he might as well be passing out 'Vote for McCain' pamphlets. Although, after the syphilis 'study' at the Tuskegee Institute became public, well, I find it a bit tough to cry 'tin foil hat' when people say things like this. Another example of 'what were they thinking'?

-ERD50

[Notmuchlonger]

Too late for some people. Obama should have thrown him "under the bus" from the start. He didn't and that is a shame. Next Obama will go on he didnt know what kind of man Wright was..

[youbet]

Originally Posted by ERD50

Although, after the syphilis 'study' at the Tuskegee Institute became public, well, I find it a bit tough to cry 'tin foil hat' when people say things like this.

Well........ if Obama means it when he says he wants to bring people together, then having himself associated with Wright's divisive statements is surely risky. Blasting the Tuskegee Institute incident is appropriate. Accusing the US govt of inventing and planting AIDS to destroy the black population is apparently being considered by some as rhetoric meant to increase distrust and be devisive.

The media is saying that Obama is particularly peeved with Wright saying that Obama is only distancing himself because he is a politician and wants to be elected..........implying that Obama actually fully believes Wrights positions but needs to hide those beliefs in order to be elected.

Wright either is an ego-freak whose personal love of attention overcomes his loyalty to his cause and to Obama (like Sharpton and Jackson) or he just dislikes Obama and wants to torpedo his election hopes.

I'm waiting for Obama operatives to discover that Wright is actually on the GOP or Clinton payroll. That's the only reason I can think of for him to be so focused on derailing Obama's campaign.

[samclem]

Originally Posted by youbet

Wright either is an ego-freak whose personal love of attention overcomes his loyalty to his cause and to Obama (like Sharpton and Jackson) or he just dislikes Obama and wants to torpedo his election hopes.

I'm waiting for Obama operatives to discover that Wright is actually on the GOP or Clinton payroll. That's the only reason I can think of for him to be so focused on derailing Obama's campaign.

I think it is Option 1: Wright realizes he's got only a matter of weeks to capitalize on this--after that he'll be nothing but a footnote. He truly believes the stuff he's been spewing for all these decades, and he sees a tremendous opportunity to have a wider audience: What preacher/activist doesn't want that? He's doing interviews on national television, he's being invited to speak at large NAACP meetings, and people want to hear him wherever he goes.

Obama rode this tiger for 20 years, and used Wright's church as an important vehicle in his political career. He sat in the pews and brought his little children to hear Wright speak. He never raised an objection. As recently as March 18th: "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community." On April 28th: "This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright. It is an attack on the black church."

Chickens are coming home to roost alright, just as the dear Rev said they do. I anticipate they'll be flocking in from multiple directions through November.

[youbet]

Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger

Next Obama will go on he didnt know what kind of man Wright was..

Obama said that Rev Wright today is a completely different person than the Rev Wright he knew and assoicated with over the years.

I've been a bit suspicious about Obama all along, but I'll have to say that his statements regarding Wright today are very convincing. Clearly he does not endorse Wright in any way and wants to be totally disassociated from him.

It is disappointing that he didn't come across like this at the beginning of the controversy.

[haha]

Originally Posted by samclem

Chickens are coming home to roost alright, just as the dear Rev said they do. I anticipate they'll be flocking in from multiple directions through November.

Don't be too sure. White Americans are born deluded, and they get more deluded with the passage of time. Remember, it all depends on the meaning of "is".

Ha

[Notmuchlonger]

"It is disappointing that he didn't come across like this at the beginning of the controversy"

Thats the whole thing with me. At least with Hillary I know she is a cold and ruthless. I like that. Obama stumbled on this one big time. But Im just one little vote in the pool of voters.

[newguy88]

Ya know wright lives in a million+ dollar home built on a golf course in a white neighborhood. Humm. Whats up with that?

[DragoMuseveni]

Originally Posted by ERD50

What exactly did Pastor Wright say in the past few days that made things any worse than they already were? I scanned a few articles, nothing jumped out at me?

-ERD50

Transcripts don't do his rant justice. You should go to Youtube and watch it... Wright is a complete a!s.

[Wags]

CBS News - Clinton: Wright "Offensive And Outrageous"

Clinton: Wright "Offensive And Outrageous", In Interview, Dem Candidate Says Voters Will Decide How Controversy Over Obama's Former Pastor Affects Race - CBS News

Excerpt from the article

Clinton also reiterated her previous remarks about Wright that she would not have stayed in the church after hearing the comments. She said it was up to voters to decide how the controversy over Wright impacts the campaign.

End of excerpt.

It appears that Mrs. Clinton is trying to point to a lack of judgement on the part of Mr. Obama as it pertains to his association with Rev Wright. Well I guess the same thing could be said about Mrs. Clinton's lack of judgement when it comes to her staying with Mr. Clinton after standing by and putting up with Mr. Clinton's numerous in·fi·del·i·ties over the years.

Does this also not point to one's lack of judgement?

It is time for the Clintons and the national news media such as Mr. O'Reilly, Mr. Hannity and others to let the Rev Wright issue go. Mr. Obama has already denounced Rev Wright's comments. What else do they want the poor devil to do?

GOD BLESS US ALL