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Old 05-17-2008, 02:35 PM   #241
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Price Update

Ok, now cheapest in my area is $4.109 for midrange. We don't drive much (mostly neighborhood grocery runs), so 2 week fill up was $46.00

I feel for those people who have to commute to work. I have heard that their weekly gas bills are over $100.
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Old 05-17-2008, 02:53 PM   #242
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I feel for those people who have to commute to work. I have heard that their weekly gas bills are over $100.
Luckily, Calgary has a great public transit system so DH and I take the bus to work. Most of our driving is done on the weekends. I think the last time we filled up DH's car was Apr. 27 and there's still a quarter tank of gas left. A lot of people in Calgary still drive to work despite the high gas prices and the fact that the cheapest parking downtown now is $20/day . Must be the good economy but I'm too cheap to pay that much every day just for parking.

I lived in Tulsa for a couple of years and could never understand why it didn't have a public transit system (I saw one bus in the entire two years I was there ).
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:19 AM   #243
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There is no vision in America when it comes to energy. We don't drill enough we don't drive the right vehicles we have awful politicians that we re elect every 2 6 or 4 years.

There should be drilling in Alaska, off the entire east coast of the USA, off in The gulf in Florida, EVERYPLACE. But better we should grow corn to put in the SUV. Dumb ideas.

Very little brain power in Washington.
Little brain power in Washington or in the heads of most american consumers. Most people I work with are outraged at the high price of gas yet none will drive less. Most drive SUVs or big pickups. Driving less or using public transportation just doesn't seem to be an option for these people. Now our prez goes to Saudi Arabia and asks them to please pump more oil. This is just embarrassing. Can we not develop our own enegy and ween ourselves off this oil? If not, then we are screwed.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:18 AM   #244
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You are right about a lot of people not getting it,i just returned from my parents place in Florida and looking down their street its all pickups,SUV's and minivans not a single fuel efficient vehicle out of about 20.Looking down my street in Montreal its all Civics,Yaris's,Hyundai Accents in fact out of the 30 or so cars i can see there might be 2 V-6's the rest are all 4cyl,i guess when you have to pay over $5gal or $1.40 a liter it wakes you up as to how much money can be wasted owning a large vehicle.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:30 AM   #245
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At this point it's still a rational decision to keep your existing SUV/Truck, just not buying a new one. If you get crap for trade in, and then spend 5k-10k more to get your compact car, that's a long time and a lot of tanks of gas to get your ROI, even at these prices. If prices stay at or near today's cost for another year or so, I'll bet the makup of vehicles on the freeway will begin to change radically as vehicles reach their end of life. Here in San Diego the Xion and Civics are a big hit already, and there are a good dozen Prius' in the work parking garage.

What makes me laugh is the good ol' boys crowing for big gubmint to go away and quit messing with the hardworking business men of America, then in the next breath saying the same gubmint should "do something" about high gas prices.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:59 AM   #246
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Business and Media org - 'Squawk Box' Guest Warns of $12-15-a-Gallon Gas

'Squawk Box' Guest Warns of $12-15-a-Gallon Gas

If the predictions by the so-called experts are correct then $4 a gallon will be considered a bargain.

With the price of a barrel of oil at about $135 maybe it is time for Mr. Bush to tell the American public that it is time to sacrfice by cutting back on our driving, to start conservation projects, to encourage car manufactures to produce electric cars, etc... etc.., etc.....

Does this sound reasonable?

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Old 05-22-2008, 06:23 AM   #247
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Although I don't like seeing a gallon of 87 at $3.86 here - I think it's good medicine for what ails us. I am milking it by driving the speed limit, easing into stops, etc. the way I drove back during the gas crisis 25- 30 years ago - I was getting about 30 in the city in my Honda Civic - now up to 36 city.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:43 AM   #248
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At this point it's still a rational decision to keep your existing SUV/Truck, just not buying a new one. If you get crap for trade in, and then spend 5k-10k more to get your compact car, that's a long time and a lot of tanks of gas to get your ROI, even at these prices.
Which is the reason I'll hang on to my full size pickup truck. It's a little over 5 years old, I bought it new with the intention of keeping it for ~20 years. We do have uses for it.

But it stays in the garage more days than it's driven.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:04 AM   #249
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High gas prices drive farmer to switch to mules

Folks it might just be time to go buy some mules.



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If the predictions by the so-called experts are correct then $4 a gallon will be considered a bargain.
Of course it's a bargain. In most European countries, the cost of gasoline is ~ €2.40 a litre. At current exchange rates, that's about $15 a gallon.

The idea that gas in America should cost less than a third of what it does in other first world countries is simply unsustainable.
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The idea that gas in America should cost less than a third of what it does in other first world countries is simply unsustainable.
The main reason for the large price difference is that "other first world countries" tax the bejeezus out of it.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:32 PM   #252
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Well, feel free to read my earlier post as follows:

"The idea that taxes in America should be much less than those of other first world countries is simply unsustainable."

Of course, the above assumes that an ever-escalating national debt and a crumbling infastructure cannot be maintained indefinitely. I grant you that many politicians are reluctant to accept that proposition.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:41 PM   #253
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Even Ford not noted as visionaries of late has stated they believe a tipping point is at hand and that a structural change is taking place - they see $4 gas until the end of 2009... Ford Motor Co. executives say they believe that $4 gas is here to stay, resulting in a fundamental consumer shift away from gas-guzzling SUVs and pickups

This caught my eye - "Ford had already offered buyouts and early retirement to all of its U.S. hourly employees earlier this year. But that was done not so much to cut headcount but to replace high-paid senior employees with costly benefit packages with lower-paid new hires with less expensive heath and retirement plans."
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:34 PM   #254
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This caught my eye - "Ford had already offered buyouts and early retirement to all of its U.S. hourly employees earlier this year. But that was done not so much to cut headcount but to replace high-paid senior employees with costly benefit packages with lower-paid new hires with less expensive heath and retirement plans."
This sounds vaguely familiar...
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:03 AM   #255
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Gas prices here:

Approx. $6.40 a gallon for regular unleaded and $7.60 a gallon for diesel. These prices recently went way up over the last year.

Last year regular unleaded was only $4.00 a gallon.

But we have a plethora of small fuel efficient diesel cars for sale here so when you're getting 60 mpg, $7.60 for diesel still isn't so bad.
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:41 AM   #256
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Lots of people posting what the price is here but not elaborating on where here is.
$1.37 a liter in Montreal today.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:10 AM   #257
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$3.99/gallon in Shepherdstown, WV yesterday, usually 5-10 cents lower in Martinsburg, WV, normally 5-10 cents lower than that in Frederick, MD at one particular Exxon station. That one may have chosen to sell gas at a break-even point to get people inside the large convenience store.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:17 AM   #258
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$3.86 in Minneapolis

I've begun to notice people riding bikes to work and to the store here.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:45 AM   #259
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:53 AM   #260
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