Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize

[Wags]

The Nobel Peace Prize for Gore's crusade against Global Warming. What a great prize for a GREAT MAN.

GOD BLESS

[SoonToRetire]

Breaking news... there's some Nobel votes from Florida that just came in and haven't been counted yet.

[Wags]

Originally Posted by SoonToRetire

Breaking news... there's some Nobel votes from Florida that just came in and haven't been counted yet.

Will there be a recount? Do you think that Kathrine Harris and Jeb Bush will have a say on which votes are counted and which are not? Or can we expect it to go all the way to the Supreme Court?

GOD BLESS

[mickeyd]

I'm confused how questionable global warming theories can be part of a peace process. OTOH, I am always glad to hear that any American wins any prize that's being handed out.

[laurence]

While I won't get into the debate here (I believe it, even Fox news is treating it as fact now that there is a business/national security angle on it with everyone "claiming" the north pole) but the Nobel committee stated something like, " warming/climate change will lead to adverse affects on water supplies, draughts, crop failures, thus countries potentially going to war over diminished/redistributed resources".

But yes...it's a wee bit of a stretch...

[maddythebeagle]

I would have thought that he won it years ago for inventing the Internet...or as Dubya calls it...the Internets...

[F-One]

Not to start anything but Gore never said he invented the internet.

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Al Gore Invented the Internet

[tryan]

From Limbuagh's web site (sorry, couldn't resist):

Here are the 11 corrections that a British judge has demanded that British school students be told about if they are shown Algore's movie. In Britain, I should add, teachers are at least required to be more careful before force-feeding such hype to children, and this is an example of it.

"Here are those 11 ... Gore presents Mt. Kilimanjaro's melting snows as proof of global warming. In fact, the snows are vanishing thanks to local factors, including deforestation. Gore suggests Antarctica's ice cover is melting. Most studies say it is increasing or stable. Gore shows scary graphics of cities drowning in seas that rise 7m, causing millions of refugees. But the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says the seas will rise at worst by 59cm this century. Gore uses images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests it was caused by global warming. The Government's expert in this case admitted such one-off events can't be blamed on warming." And, by the way, if it's blamed on warming and warming is happening, where the hell are the hurricanes this year? I mean, in order to make it look like we're having a tropical storm season, they're naming subtropical systems! Systems that never used to get named are now being named. I go to all these hurricane blogs, folks. It's the most amazing thing. I go to all these hurricane blogs, and they're desperate.

They'll point out, "We're watching a system 200 miles north of Puerto Rico. Upper leave shear should be decreasing. This system could provoke interests on the eastern coast of the United States to take precautions. We don't know yet, but it looks good for development -- and this thing down there, Belize in the Yucatan Peninsula," and the National Hurricane Service doing the same thing, and they all have dissipated! They've all not amounted to a hill of beans. They never became anything. Yet, the hurricane blog says... I know they're good guys, but they're doing everything they can to make it look like thunderstorm activity out in the ocean is "posing a threat to the East Coast of the United States." Two years in a row here with veritably no hurricane activity striking the US coast. We have had those two Cat Fives down there that hit Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula, but none here. If global warming is going on, why aren't we being devastated by Katrina after Katrina after Katrina? That's just my editorial input here.

"Gore suggests ice-core evidence shows rising CO2 caused temperature rises, which ended the past seven ice ages. In fact, the CO2 rises followed temperature rises by 800 to 2000 years. Gore claims global warming could stop the Gulf Stream, causing an ice age in Europe. Recent studies deny it." We told you about the most recent study. The Gulf Stream is like... Imagine a conveyor belt, and the Gulf Stream takes warm water from right here in Florida and this part of the world across the Atlantic, and it gets up and gets cooler as it goes. But it warms some of the water that it interacts with. It keeps a veritably mild temperate climate over Great Britain, and Gore's movie says it's dying. It's dying! The Gulf Stream is dying out. It isn't dying out. They find that it fluctuates many times during the course of every year. Remember, a judge is making teachers teach this stuff to their kids watching the movie. "Gore blames global warming for species losses in coral reef bleaching. The government couldn't show evidence to back this claim." There are many more. An interesting thing, too, is in Gore's movie, he doesn't want people in Western Africa to improve their lives because it would require electricity and so forth. He wants them to remain poor rather than advancing their lifestyles, in order to "save" the planet. It's absurd. He's probably going to win the Nobel Peace Prize

[travelover]

Originally Posted by F-One

Not to start anything but Gore never said he invented the internet.

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Al Gore Invented the Internet

Everyone knows that Al invented Gore Tex. And I appreciate it every time it rains.

[eridanus]

That's just my editorial input here.

Let's see....hundreds of peer reviewed studies versus the editorial input of an Oxycontin fiend. Hmmm.




Edit: removed a lost tag.

[laurence]

Oh no, it only took 8 posts for Rush Limbaugh to be quoted as a factual source! Dive! Dive! I never should have posted!

[eridanus]

Originally Posted by laurencewill

Oh no, it only took 8 posts for Rush Limbaugh to be quoted as a factual source! Dive! Dive! I never should have posted!

Yep, this thread has officially jumped the shark.

[Wags]

Originally Posted by laurencewill

Oh no, it only took 8 posts for Rush Limbaugh to be quoted as a factual source! Dive! Dive! I never should have posted!

Vice President Al Gore was right on not attacking and invading Iraq and it appears (depending on which studies one chooses to beleive) that he also got it right on Global Warming.

Just like President Carter it appears that VP Gore will do alot more good out of office then while he was in office.

GREAT AWARD for a GREAT MAN.

GOD BLESS

[ERD50]

I can see an award for the IPCC, but for Gore? His 'documentary' distorts the IPCC reports and misguides the average person. Why is that award worthy?

Dramatization might get you an Oscar, but a Nobel? I don't get it.

I guess Frank Capra deserves a Nobel prize too, I always found his films 'inspiring'.

-ERD50

[Zathras]

The panel stated they awarded Gore due to his raising the awareness of the issue of Global Warming.
As for the judge in England, what Rush didn't note is that the judge found no issue with the science put forth in the movie, just that many points were embelleshed and the general theme was 'Alarmist'. Some quotes from the judge can be found here: Judge explains his issues with Gore movie - Climate Change - MSNBC.com
I am very happy that they gave the award to the IPCC as well. While they have collated tons of research, Al got people talking about the issue which is what we need.

[dex]

You know I think Charleston Heston should have received the Nobel Prize also - he did give us the 10 Commandments after all.

[travelover]

This thread is starting to sound familiar. Is this a rematch?

[ERD50]

Originally Posted by Zathras

I am very happy that they gave the award to the IPCC as well. While they have collated tons of research, Al got people talking about the issue which is what we need.

Gore did get people talking about it. And it is an important issue that people should be talking about.

The problem I have is that he did it with distortions and dramatizations. If this is such a big problem, why does it need to be distorted to get people interested? Shouldn't the facts*, as laid out by the IPCC be enough?

If you think drama and distortion is OK because this is a big problem, and we just need to get people to wake up, then you are saying 'the end justifies the means'. That is dangerous because you just opened up that approach to the opposing view. Then you have two sides, both lying to make the point that they believe. That just turns it into a religious war, people defending 'beliefs' at any cost.

People like me look, see that both sides are lying and tend to say - geez, this is just posturing, it can't be that important or they'd deal with the real issues. And life goes on.

-ERD50

* This assumes that the IPCC is presenting facts as best as science knows at this point in time. I tend to think they are, but they could also be influenced by politics, and I don't know enough to be able to refute what they have to say. I'm taking the IPCC reports as good science until I'm shown it is not.

[dex]

Originally Posted by ERD50

Gore did get people talking about it. And it is an important issue that people should be talking about.

I think Al is in the catagory with Princess Diana - she took away credit from people who actually did the work. People think Diana did work on getting rid of land mines but all she did was appear twice (or so) in a flack jacket hearing about the issue. The real person was a bit bitter about it even after winning the Nobel Prize for it. Jody Williams started the organization.
Jody Williams Winner of the 1997 Nobel Prize in Peace

By giving the prize to Al it is like giving the a Silver Star to a news reporter instead of the solider.

[saluki9]

Want to see who Al beat out to win the prize?

Warning! This may make you want to vomit.

Irena Sendler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia