McCain lost because of Palin and Bush

[Yankees Rule]

Looks as though McCain made a huge mistake with Palin. No way could he win PA or OH with this poorly made choice of a running mate. If he picks Tom Ridge he had a much better chance. But as of 10:06 tonight soon VA and NC and FL and CO will be called for Obama and wow then the west coast we will have a new President.

Wow, It looks as though the Republican party that has ruined America is getting dusted.

[mb]

Originally Posted by Yankees Rule

Looks as though McCain made a huge mistake with Palin. No way could he win PA or OH with this poorly made choice of a running mate. If he picks Tom Ridge he had a much better chance. But as of 10:06 tonight soon VA and NC and FL and CO will be called for Obama and wow then the west coast we will have a new President.

Wow, It looks as though the Republican party that has ruined America is getting dusted.

I think that it was Bush (Iraq war and economy) and Greenspan (economy)

[dex]

I think you missed several reasons why McCain lost.
Downturn in the stock market
Credit crisis
His Age
White
Republican following a Republican Bush
Iraq War dissatisfaction
Afghanistan dissatisfaction
Media bias against him
Poor public speaking
Poor campaign management
Attempted to deal with issues

His opponent had the following going for him
Youth
Black
Good public speaker
Democrat
Little public service history to define him
Provided a vision of hope and change.

The opposition and many others would have viewed Tom Ridge as just another white guy control freak - Chaney II
Palin at least got some people to give McCain another look.

I'm surprised how close it is in the popular vote. But there isn't a path in the electoral college.

It took two parties to get to where the USA is today.

"There ain't a dime's worth of difference between them." That's how the great Waylon Jennings described the two parties back in the early 1980s. There may be even less today

[unclemick]

It's our turn. BTW I'm a Democrat.

Party now cause the work starts soon.

The red beads, the white beads(The Red Bead Experiment) and those dastardly blue beads aka un-intended consequences.

heh heh heh - lets hope they/we are still happy with 'victory' two years from now. .

[Yankees Rule]

Originally Posted by dex

I think you missed several reasons why McCain lost.
Downturn in the stock market
Credit crisis
His Age
White
Republican following a Republican Bush
Iraq War dissatisfaction
Afghanistan dissatisfaction
Media bias against him
Poor public speaking
Poor campaign management
Attempted to deal with issues

His opponent had the following going for him
Youth
Black
Good public speaker
Democrat
Little public service history to define him
Provided a vision of hope and change.

The opposition and many others would have viewed Tom Ridge as just another white guy control freak - Chaney II
Palin at least got some people to give McCain another look.

I'm surprised how close it is in the popular vote. But there isn't a path in the electoral college.

It took two parties to get to where the USA is today.

"There ain't a dime's worth of difference between them." That's how the great Waylon Jennings described the two parties back in the early 1980s. There may be even less today

Popular vote when its all counted will be 3 to 5 million behind thats plenty

[audreyh1]

McCain lost because he ran a really lousy campaign. I have never seen anything so frantically erratic!

Obama won because he ran a brilliant campaign. And his supercool steady-on-the-message approach stood out in sharp contrast to McCain's erratic approach.

Oh yeah, Bush made it a huge uphill battle for McCain, and even though Palin energized the base, she alienated/disappointed the swing/independent voters that McCain desperately needed.

BTW - the debates exactly coincided with the moment that economy/financial crisis went into a tailspin. I think his performance in the debates helped Obama as much as the worsening economy did.

[Dog]

This is to Yankees Rule.

I think you will find that the MOST republicans won't be as nasty and bitter about this as liberal/left has been the past eight years. I'm not a fan of Obama, and we don't really know what type of leader he will be. But, he will be our next president and I will support him.

[SarahW]

^^ Yeah, that. McCain's concession speech was a class act. I'm disappointed in the outcome, but the majority have spoken. God bless America.

[citrine]

Wooooohoooooo!!!! Thank god for President Obama!!!!

[eridanus]

Originally Posted by Dog

I think you will find that the MOST republicans won't be as nasty and bitter about this as liberal/left has been the past eight years.

Are you kidding? You obviously weren't around during the Clinton years. The Republicans were rabid.

[DAYDREAMER]

We no longer look like a joke in the worlds eyes!!!! People of America showed that we overwhelmingly do not support Bush idiotic policies. Thank god for the outcome of this election. Couldn't have ended better!!!!

[Dog]

Thanks for proving my point - nasty even in victory.

[Yankees Rule]

I believe the Evangelical wing of the Republican Party needs to leave their religion at the door. It is time to leave all religion out of politics. McCain is a good man. But he had poor handlers and ran an election campaign like Bush ran in 2004. Trying to win with these voters. Not going to happen , probably ever again. We have witnessed a change of the guard. I am happy and looking forward to a new beginning for our country. The look on the faces of my friends of color tonight is just wonderful.

A great night to be an American.

[Surfdaddy]

I'm a Republican and Palin was the final straw. I might have voted McCain but no way with her as VP.

[USK Coastie]

Comrades Comrades Mcain lost because he is an old white guy who the RINOS in the party decided that it was his turn at a shot. Kinda like Dole in '96.

We'll see how things work out over the next 4 years. It should be an interesting time . When the dems come for your free speech, guns and cash, just remember give them up, its the best thing you can do for your country.

[P.S.]

Originally Posted by Yankees Rule

Looks as though McCain made a huge mistake with Palin.

completely agree. I was a bit incredulous when I heard about Palin. When I heard her speak, I "knew" McCain would lose.

[FinanceDude]

Originally Posted by Yankees Rule

I believe the Evangelical wing of the Republican Party needs to leave their religion at the door. It is time to leave all religion out of politics. McCain is a good man. But he had poor handlers and ran an election campaign like Bush ran in 2004. Trying to win with these voters. Not going to happen , probably ever again. We have witnessed a change of the guard. I am happy and looking forward to a new beginning for our country. The look on the faces of my friends of color tonight is just wonderful.

A great night to be an American.

Leave me out of this, I will be busy "clinging to my guns and religion".

[Westernskies]

Originally Posted by Yankees Rule

Looks as though McCain made a huge mistake with Palin. No way could he win PA or OH with this poorly made choice of a running mate. If he picks Tom Ridge he had a much better chance. But as of 10:06 tonight soon VA and NC and FL and CO will be called for Obama and wow then the west coast we will have a new President.

Wow, It looks as though the Republican party that has ruined America is getting dusted.

I think it is only fair to point out that the Yankees lost before McCain did, and by a larger margin.

[FinanceDude]

The first thing McCain should push for is Palin to run the GOP. It's the perfect job for her...........

[clifp]

Brit Hume gave probably the best defense of McCain campaign I've seen. I'll add some of my points.

McCain was running an underdog uphill battle the entire campaign from the very beginning, when he supported more troops for a unpopular war, requested by a deeply unpopular President.

McCain stuck to his guns the surge worked, and in all likely hood this means we will have replaced one of the worst dictators in recent years with a flawed but democratically elected government and killed lost of Islamic extremist instead of losing another war.

After McCain defeated a fairly average bunch of Republican candidates. Contrary to all expectations the Democrat race remained competitive and very exciting pitting the formidable Clinton machine against a once in generation orator. McCain was getting zero press and was hopeless behind in fund raising.

The press coverage was so bad that when Sen. McCain had the good timing of being in Columbia, when daring rescue (worthy of a episode of "24") of hostages was staged. The news and Sen. McCain's support of the courageous Colombian president didn't even last a news cycle.

The only things that stopped the wall to wall coronation of Barack Obama was the Olympics. The DNC held a perfectly staged crafted convention, Barack gave yet another masterful speech filling a football stadium.

The next day McCain named Palin and suddenly overnight everybody stopped talking for the very first time ever about Obama. The next few weeks Sarah Palin put Sen Obama on the defensive Prior to this it was a rare day or two when Obama ever was on the defense. It is true that Palin got hurt by several interviews but on balance she was a huge help to the campaign and an inspired choice.

Frankly, I seriously doubt that people who claim they'd vote for McCain until he nominated Palin, would have actually voted for him. I'll ask folks like Surfdaddy who you voted for in the primary? For every vote he lost because of his VP nomination she inspired ten hard core Republican activist to get out and contribute and help the campaign.

I don't want to particularly want to see Sarah Palin president. If you to list my prefered presidential candidates
The list would
1. John McCain
2. Colin Powell
3-6 various other Republicans
7. Barack Obama
85. Sarah Palin
98. Joe the Plumber
130. Hillary Clinton.
495. Joe Biden
200,000,210. Jesse Jackson

However, folks who claim McCain lost because Sarah Palin are smoking something. The only thing McCain lost by nominating Gov. Palin is the crudging respect of Democrats.

McCain lost because of Bush, corrupt Republican in Congress, success in Iraq, a faltering economic, his own lack of discipline as candidate.
Credit must also go to Barack for being a terrific campaigner.

However, what wiped out McCain campaign is the financial tsunami Anybody who was part of the incumbent party was in serious danger of drowning and the election proved that. McCain ran ahead of many incumbent Republican congressman and senators and virtually every challenger.