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The Bush Presidency: The Historians (Start to) Weigh In
Old 04-15-2008, 03:22 PM   #1
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An interesting NY Times article - The Bush Presidency: The Historians (Start to) Weigh In

The Bush Presidency: The Historians (Start to) Weigh In - The Board - Editorials - Opinion - New York Times Blog

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The nonprofit History News Network is reporting that in an informal survey of 109 historians, 98.2 percent considered President George W. Bush’s presidency to be a failure, while 1.8 percent called it a success.

On the question of whether he is the worst president in history, there was greater difference of opinion: 61 percent said he was, while others disagreed or are withholding their opinions. (The survey also made clear that James Buchanan has some work to do rehabilitating his whole catapulted-the-nation-into-Civil-War reputation.)

Given the disastrous Iraq War, the sub-prime mortgage meltdown, the economy hurtling toward recession, the huge budget deficits, the plummeting dollar — to name just a few problems — these historians sound a lot like the 20 percent of dentists who don’t recommend sugarless gum for their patients who chew gum.

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Does anyone think that Mr. Bush still has time to turn this around? Or will things get worse?

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Canadians think he has been a moron from day 1.

I think Americans are finally coming to that conclusion 8 years too late.

Personally, I don't think the guy is strung right.

We had our own poll up here about a month ago and he was the overwhelming candidate as worst president you have ever experienced.
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Canadians think he has been a moron from day 1.

I think Americans are finally coming to that conclusion 8 years too late.

Personally, I don't think the guy is strung right.

We had our own poll up here about a month ago and he was the overwhelming candidate as worst president you have ever experienced.

It's so nice of you to weigh in on this Zip ole buddy! We value your inputs and realize we haven't suffered enough until we've heard from you...
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I bow to nobody in my distaste for Bush and his presidency.

But I don't think "historians" are or should be in the business of judging anything current, much less a sitting president. If Lincoln's contemporaries had done that he'd have fared pretty poorly also.

I'm confident that History herself will find Bush sorely wanting, and I'm willing to wait for her.
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If Lincoln's contemporaries had done that he'd have fared pretty poorly also.
Actually, there are some historians today that feel Lincoln could have met his objectives while avoiding killing more Americans than any other president and with results that most consider inadequate even today.

The new Lincoln Museum in Springfield, Ill is an interesting place but, surprisingly, left me with some mixed feelings about Lincoln as opposed to confirming that the actions and strategies he took were the best and the only possible ones.

But you're right. It is what it is. We have to march forward from here. And we can let the so-called historians comment on Bush II, Clinton, and the rest as time flows by........

Even Kennedy/Johnson catch some slack despite the travesty of Viet Nam.
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Canadians think he has been a moron from day 1.

I think Americans are finally coming to that conclusion 8 years too late.
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American's had no good choice back then. Bush appeared to be the least of the evils at the time.
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We'd conduct a poll on the worst Canadian PM if we knew who any of them were...
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We'd conduct a poll on the worst Canadian PM if we knew who any of them were...
I can't think of who they are either....... :confused: I do know the guy in power now promised to build a climate controlled dome over much of Ontario so that residents could stay there all winter instead of travelling to the southern USA........and having to mingle with all of us rabble. But I don't see any dome yet..... Guy must have been making promises he couldn't deliver on.
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I can't think of who they are either....... :confused: I do know the guy in power now promised to build a climate controlled dome over much of Ontario so that residents could stay there all winter instead of travelling to the southern USA........and having to mingle with all of us rabble. But I don't see any dome yet..... Guy must have been making promises he couldn't deliver on.
I seem to recall we are about the same latitude as you and about the same climate.
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I seem to recall we are about the same latitude as you and about the same climate.
So no need to come down here for the winter?
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So no need to come down here for the winter?
So, no need to come up here for the summer!
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We'd conduct a poll on the worst Canadian PM if we knew who any of them were...
Not to worry.

We'll sell you all the oil and gas we can.

Since Bush's watch the $C has gone from ~$.60 to par.

I guess I shouldn't be complaining!
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Not to worry.

We'll sell you all the oil and gas we can.

Since Bush's watch the $C has gone from ~$.60 to par.

I guess I shouldn't be complaining!
What makes you think Jeb Bush wont just go and take it from you when hes president?
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What makes you think Jeb Bush wont just go and take it from you when hes president?
If another Bush becomes president i'm moving to Canada!
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If another Bush becomes president i'm moving to Canada!
You mean Hillary?
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This is probably what really set them off...
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aaron, you better check out this site before you pack the car!

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I thought they had a queen She's on their money right
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I though about posting this composite of Queen Elizabeth II and Elton John, but realized it might be viewed as crass and tasteless.

Oh, what the heck...

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Oh, what the heck...

We live for crass and tasteless.

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