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Old 06-25-2008, 09:50 PM   #21
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At any rate, I'm new here and do not want to stir up a hornet's nest.
I think you just did...
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:53 PM   #22
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I think Osama will die of old age before we get him.
Here's a link from Fox News reporting his death.

FOXNews.com - Report: Bin Laden Already Dead - U.S. & World
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:56 PM   #23
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Here's a link from Fox News reporting his death.

FOXNews.com - Report: Bin Laden Already Dead - U.S. & World
As reported by the Pakistan Observer, yeah OK.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:57 PM   #24
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I think you just did...
Yikes, I am slightly addicted to politics. Perhaps you want to ban me now?
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:58 PM   #25
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Yikes, I am slightly addicted to politics. Perhaps you want to ban me now?
We are very advanced here, we just put you on ignore.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:59 PM   #26
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As reported by the Pakistan Observer, yeah OK.
I merely post this as there are so many allegations he's already long gone, including one not too long ago from that person assassinated in Pakistan, but her name escapes me. I'd have to google.

Yes, this is it with David Frost. For some reason the MSM didn't pay attention....

YouTube - Frost over the World - Benazir Bhutto - 02 Nov 07
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:00 PM   #27
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We are very advanced here, we just put you on ignore.
So much information lost that way...
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:01 PM   #28
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With all due respect, I beg to differ and could demonstrate that his re-election is very suspect. At any rate, I'm new here and do not want to stir up a hornet's nest. I agree he might be Mr. Bush, but not President Bush.
I agreed with what you said in your previous post but for whatever reason my use of the English language might not have been at it's best.

World Net Daily - Bin Ladens allowed out of U.S. after 9-11
Former White House official confirms operation said to be rumor


Bin Ladens allowed out of U.S. after 9-11

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In the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks while U.S. airspace was restricted, planes sanctioned by the Bush administration flew about the country gathering some 140 high-ranking Saudi Arabians – including several relatives of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden – who were then spirited out of the country within a week of the terror, according to a senior official.


While the Saudis have long denied involvement in the massacre that claimed the lives of some 3,000 people, 15 of the 19 hijackers came from the kingdom.

Former White House counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke described the Saudi exodus in an interview for the current issue of Vanity Fair on newsstands today. Clarke, who left the White House in February, lends confirmation to reports of the evacuation which first surfaced in September 2001, but have been dispelled as rumor and urban legend.

Citing Clarke, the magazine reports that within a week of the hijackings private planes picked up individuals from 10 cities, including Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., Houston and Boston. Aviation officials complained the flights took place before the government had lifted flight restrictions for the general public.
"We were in the midst of the worst terrorist act in history and here we were seeing an evacuation of the bin Ladens. ... I wanted to go the highest levels in Washington," Tom Kinton, director of aviation at Boston's Logan International Airport, told the magazine. Kinton said it was clear the operation had the blessings of federal authorities.

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:01 PM   #29
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With all due respect, I beg to differ and could demonstrate that his re-election is very suspect. At any rate, I'm new here and do not want to stir up a hornet's nest. I agree he might be Mr. Bush, but not President Bush.
Gore lost. Get over it. Kerry Lost. Get over that, too.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:04 PM   #30
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So much information lost that way...
Can you imagine losing this important info..
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:06 PM   #31
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Yikes, I am slightly addicted to politics. Perhaps you want to ban me now?
We have a property rule here. Anyone is welcome to political opinions, but only millionaires are allowed to voice them.

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We have a property rule here. Anyone is welcome to political opinions, but only millionaires are allowed to voice them.

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:17 PM   #33
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Gore lost. Get over it. Kerry Lost. Get over that, too.
This is not about that. It's about what has transpired in the last 7 years. The topic of this thread is bin Laden and I can demonstrate just what BS it is that Bush ever wanted to "smoke him out of his cave, hunt him down." Did you know Bush is afraid of horses? Some cowboy there, but he can clear brush.
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I'll tell you what bothers me the most. If bin laden hates us as much as we think he does he has had all these years to lay future plans of terrorism against us and instruct his followers.

It's so sick that anyone would even think of doing that.

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Old 06-27-2008, 11:01 PM   #35
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I'll tell you what bothers me the most. If bin laden hates us as much as we think he does he has had all these years to lay future plans of terrorism against us and instruct his followers.

It's so sick that anyone would even think of doing that.

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You mean future plans of terrorism? Some might argue that 911 was blow back and after reading a book of the same name, by Chalmers Johnson...well, our foreign policy leaves much to be desired, putting it mildly.
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This might help to explain why Mr. Bin Laden is still out and about.

YouTube - Bush Vs Bin Laden - (funny cartoon)

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Old 06-28-2008, 03:55 PM   #37
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You mean future plans of terrorism? Some might argue that 911 was blow back and after reading a book of the same name, by Chalmers Johnson...well, our foreign policy leaves much to be desired, putting it mildly.
Even if one believes that U.S. presence and policy in the Middle East drove terrorists to 9/11, I find excuses for terrorists like these to be rather unfortunate.

Just because someone was provoked or enticed into doing X, when X is very, very wrong, doesn't mean the person was any less despicable for doing X. And it doesn't mean the victim deserved it.

I questioned aspects of U.S. Mideast policy for years before 9/11. Doesn't mean I think we "deserved" what we got or that we "had it coming."
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:52 PM   #38
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Even if one believes that U.S. presence and policy in the Middle East drove terrorists to 9/11, I find excuses for terrorists like these to be rather unfortunate.

Just because someone was provoked or enticed into doing X, when X is very, very wrong, doesn't mean the person was any less despicable for doing X. And it doesn't mean the victim deserved it.

I questioned aspects of U.S. Mideast policy for years before 9/11. Doesn't mean I think we "deserved" what we got or that we "had it coming."
Of course we did not deserve it, but this notion that "they hate us for our freedom" and that we have to "liberate them" is ridiculous. They hate us for our foreign policy.
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Of course we did not deserve it, but this notion that "they hate us for our freedom" and that we have to "liberate them" is ridiculous. They hate us for our foreign policy.
Exactly what kind of foreign policy would it take to make them love and admire us?
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