Why Hillary keeps running...

[chinaco]

Hillary will continue. It looks like she will not be able to get the numbers. She may get a VP spot or if some scandal emerges about Obama late in the game, she will get the nomination.

She is correct... Obama has not been totally vetted yet. The DNC should hope to keep her in the race (but a little more conciliatory). That way they can hedge their chances just in case something happens (skeletons/scandals).

The Clinton detractors are probably happy. But since the majority of them are republicans... they will probably not be happy with the outcome of the general election.

Last night... DW told me: "I guess I will voting for Obama". She is and independent voter and a staunch Hillary supporter. I was surprised.

[Milton]

Originally Posted by clifp

Wow what an astonishingly bad idea.
Let see say goodbye to one or more terms of the following Presidents widely considered to be above average

We are all entitled to our opinions.

If the presidents you've listed had been ineligible, it's possible that their spots would have been filled with even better candidates, who didn't get the nod because they had to "wait their turn".

[TromboneAl]

What do you have against John Adams, Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower (to name 3)?

But they didn't live in the age of the internets.

A lot of people think that superdelegates and electoral colleges are a good thing, and protect the country against the poor judgment of the masses. That's fine as long as they don't fool themselves and believe that we live in a democracy.

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by Milton

We are all entitled to our opinions.

If the presidents you've listed had been ineligible, it's possible that their spots would have been filled with even better candidates, who didn't get the nod because they had to "wait their turn".

So, is there an age limit on PM candidates in Canada?

[Notmuchlonger]

Milton are you a US citizen?

[armor99]

Originally Posted by brewer12345

My bet is that its about money to pay off campaign debts.

I was amazed at what I learned about elections in Puerto Rico. Apparently they routinely have participation rates in elections down there of 90+%, even in primary races. I had to ask my guide to repeat that, since I thought I misheard the first time.

I thought that because Puerto Rico is a territory and not a state, that they are not allowed to vote for the president?

[StJohnsWood]

Getting back to the originial question, she feels she is entitled to be President. She will say or do whatever it takes because she feels she is a chosen one. By whom I am just not sure?

I find it funny that she is getting beat by someone so "inexperienced". Like she has all this experience. Isn't experience / career politicians what most Americans not want now?

[A854321]

Her WVa win amplified Obama's shortcommings and weaknesses. I think she really puts the Democratic party's nominee farther back each day more she stays in the race.

However, she clearly will not leave until after the last primary.

Big debate last night between talking heads about Obama offering the VP spot to her. The most interesting comment I heard said that she couldn't possibly be offered it because neither she nor Mr. Bill would pass the vetting. Mr. Bill's undisclosed business with foreign companies will completely exclude her from serious consideration. Surely she must know that.

I don't want her as VP. Even though I have respect for her determination, I still think she is part of a desperately ambitious and corrupt political duo.

If she had divorced Mr. Bill upon leaving the White House, instead of taking the rugs and the furniture, I believe she would be the Democratic nominee by now. But its' that big, red-faced anchor around her neck that will sink her.

[brewer12345]

Originally Posted by armor99

I thought that because Puerto Rico is a territory and not a state, that they are not allowed to vote for the president?

Dunno, but I know they get delegates seated at the Democratic convention. They have those huge turnouts for local elections, too.

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by armor99

I thought that because Puerto Rico is a territory and not a state, that they are not allowed to vote for the president?

Puerto Rico is a Commonwealth and they have reps. in Congress. They don't pay US Income tax but get many of the benefits. They get SS and many other benefits but I don't believe they can vote in presidential elections...not sure how the party primary thing works.

[TromboneAl]

I find it funny that she is getting beat by someone so "inexperienced".

Good point. It's like Mitt Romney saying he's never accomplished anything. Well, he accomplished a successful nominee campaign, which is better than Romney accomplished.

Here's a question: Why has Hillary been less successful at raising money?

[Nords]

Originally Posted by TromboneAl

Here's a question: Why has Hillary been less successful at raising money?

The dollar vote seems to be more critical to selecting candidates than any delegates or other registered voters...

It's not a democracy, it's a representational republic. And the richer you are, the more representation you get!

[Wags]

All of this makes me proud to be from Texas "Where Bob Willis is Still the King".

The Music of Bob Willis

He was known as the King of Western Swing.

As for Mrs. Clinton is just might be time for her to hang em' up and head down to the barn for a well needed rest.

God Bless Us All

[redmcclain]

Here's a question: Why has Hillary been less successful at raising money?

This is just my haphazard guess...

It seems to me that Hillary's campaign anticipated winning the nomination early on and didn't really plan for a long, drawn out primary or budget their resources accordingly. If I remember correctly she started this process with a substantial war chest which I'm assuming reflected the generosity of those who have financial means and/or are established political players. Since individual donors can only donate $2,300 to a candidate she was unable to tap her supporters for more cash once it became apparent they would need to open offices, purchase air time and pay workers in Ohio, Indiana, Guam, North Carolina, Kentucky, etc.

I assume that given the polls when this thing started many, many months ago that Obama's staff must have planned for a lengthy, costly process. For various reasons he has managed to motivate legions of political neophytes and turn the internet into a virtual ATM. The advantage of having millions of "small donors" is that he can return to them again & again for $25 - 50 - 100 simply through e-mail or text messaging.

Of course with each delegate he wins his ability to attract players with deep pockets increases - and diverts money away from Hillary.

[Milton]

Originally Posted by SteveR

So, is there an age limit on PM candidates in Canada?

Unfortunately not (we don't even have term limits here!). Such a rule would have seen off Jean Chrétien, who clung to power served until age 69.

Fortunately, most recent Canadian PM's have tended to be relatively young:

Pierre Trudeau: aged 48-64
Joe Clark: aged 40
John Turner: aged 55
Brian Mulroney: aged 44-54
Kim Campbell: aged 46
Jean Chrétien: aged 59-69
Paul Martin Jr.: aged 65-68
Stephen Harper: aged 46-

[Milton]

Originally Posted by armor99

I thought that because Puerto Rico is a territory and not a state, that they are not allowed to vote for the president?

As explained in Spanish-Speaking Territory To Hold First U.S. Presidential Primary, "Although Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, Puerto Rico does not vote in U.S. presidential elections because it is not a state. But both major parties have long given territorial residents representation at their national conventions."

[samclem]

Originally Posted by A854321

Big debate last night between talking heads about Obama offering the VP spot to her. The most interesting comment I heard said that she couldn't possibly be offered it because neither she nor Mr. Bill would pass the vetting. Mr. Bill's undisclosed business with foreign companies will completely exclude her from serious consideration. Surely she must know that.

They'd have no official trouble passing the investigation: The checks are conducted by employees of the executive branch for use by the executive branch. Ultimately, the President would decide if the results of the investigation were disqualifying for his VP nominee--so they probably wouldn't be. Still, the Clintons would be taking a risk: I suppose the results of the investigation might be subject to revelation in response to a subpoena, or they might just get leaked. Regardless, all that poking around wouldn't be good for Bill's unseemly side businesses.

Originally Posted by A854321

If she had divorced Mr. Bill upon leaving the White House, instead of taking the rugs and the furniture, I believe she would be the Democratic nominee by now. But its' that big, red-faced anchor around her neck that will sink her.

What are the odds we'd even know her name if Bill and she hadn't formed their partnership of convenience so many years ago?

Obama is not going to pick her to be his VP. She's too ambitious and can't be trusted. Moreover, she, Bill, and their cast of hangers-on would be a constant disruption. Obama would have a smoother time of things if he simply made a habit of setting fire to a random room in the White House every morning.

[laurencewill]

She's running almost no ads, doing low cost events, downsizing staff...I think she's just staying in to try and pay off that $20 million in debt, the majority of which is owed to herself. Once she "officially" drops out, she'll roll the debt into her '12 Senate campaign and finish off the debt there. The trick is thanks to McCain-Feingold she can't pay herself back after a few months of the close of the primary, so Senate campaign contributions won't help with that.

She could have the Senate Majority Leader position in a minute, I don't know why she wouldn't be happy with that legacy. Can you imagine if we had a woman as Speaker, a woman as Senate Majority Leader, and a black man as President? What an amazing, wonderful milestone for the country that would be. I would say something eloquent about the ultimate realization of the first glimmerings of democratic thought in Greek City-States 3,000 years ago, but I'm kind of tired. I will say I'm very happy to be in my early 30's in this day and age, I'm hopeful for what the next 50 years holds for the world.

[TromboneAl]

I'm not sure that her personal debt is that important, considering that they made over 20 million last year.