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REWahoo · 02-20-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowbird100

I think it is sad that a health care system (such as the one in the US) that doesn't look after the most vulnerable re: seniors

In a society, I think the younger and stronger should look after the older, I don't see anything wrong with that ?

Collect some kind of health taxes from young people who are employed and pay for the seniors. They are old, they can't work, and that's why the younger should look after the seniors. I am amazed it's not happening in the US !

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I'm not sure whether you are a troll or suffering a severe case of bull-in-the-china-shopitus. Either way, your posts are doing little more than finger pointing and inflaming.

**FIREd** · 02-20-2012, 03:42 PM

It is clear to me, Snowbird100, that you have a problem with facts. You are poisoning this conversation with provocative statements that have little to do with reality.

nun · 02-20-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelB

A McKinsey study comparing health care in the US with other major countries dated 2007, linked in previous discussions. Accounting for the Cost of Health Care in the United States | McKinsey Global Institute | Americas | McKinsey & Company

They find and quantify many reasons for the difference in costs.

Mckinsey are at the center of the newest NHS reform proposals that are getting the Conservatives into a lot of trouble in the UK as they intend to open up some services to the private sector. It's all in the name of choice and competition, but most people in the UK are afraid that it will take care away from them. I don't know enough to know if this is true or not, but inertia is a big thing when it comes to healthcare. The guy in the video is the Minister for Health.

Conservative support shrinks as voters turn against NHS reforms | Politics | The Guardian

Midpack · 02-20-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowbird100

Canadians doctors, in general, and when they entered medical schools in Canada, they didn't go into the professions to make big bucks ... Not at all !

I think it's sad that doctors in the US (I don't know how many) entered the profession to make big bucks ! There's one dentist in the US who used paper clip as post for root canal, yes PAPER CLIP instead of stainless steel post for root canal.

Paper clip is allowed for temporary measure, not permanent root canal. And he performed so many root canals using paper clips to save $ or make $.

What a shame !

Just my opinion but you're trashing your own credibility here. I am most interested in seeing US health care overhauled, but I'm confident that not all US doctors enter the profession "to make big bucks." Most medical professionals, not just doctors BTW, are probably good people who want to help people first and foremost, but they are trapped in a health care/insurance/political/legal maze that makes it almost impossible. I am sure they are frustrated too.

And while I'm the first to criticize the poor cost effectiveness of our US health care, the fact remains that at the leading edge our medical professionals are indeed the best in the world in many areas. Metaphorically, we can't block & tackle well at all (that's where the problems are), but we have more star quarterbacks than any other country.

It's nice to know Canadian doctors are entirely altruistic though...