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04-21-2015, 08:57 PM
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#161
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Marijuana in Retirement
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Originally Posted by spectrallight
...downing five martinis every night and smoking a pack of cigarettes while consuming pornography...
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I've always thought that drug testing, except in public safety situations, is overly intrusive...
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04-21-2015, 08:59 PM
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#162
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt34
Every state has budget issues. You'd think they'd all be looking at the option.
All those used-up coal mines in WV could become year-round grow centers.
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"You loaded sixteen tons..."
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04-30-2015, 07:26 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beststash
Decriminalize not legalize would be much better for us Southern states. Simple is always much better in Texas.
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Conservative Mississippi, believe it or not, was among the first States to decriminalize possession of less than 30 grams ... way back in 1978.
Miss. among 14 states with progressive marijuana laws
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04-30-2015, 07:40 AM
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#164
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Originally Posted by youbet
Hopefully in addition to making MJ legal and unregulated for recreational use, they'll also eliminate the very stoooopid regulations on growing your own. We should be allowed to grow and process MJ in our own home/backyards just as I do tomatoes and green beans. And I should be able to give MJ away to friends just as I now dump surplus veggies from the garden on their front porches.
It is sooooo wrong to spend zillions of gov't/taxpayer dollars enforcing ridiculous rules on home gardening! This world needs more folks growing their own food, making their own booze, growing and processing their own MJ (or whatever), not less.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the big, commercial growers operating (at huge profits) under the radar in California would suddenly find there is no market for their stuff because home gardeners make it freely available like zucchini in August? No guns, no gangsters, no crooked law enforcement payola schemes. Just grandma in the backyard yelling at the youngin's to hurry up "hoeing that row of MJ!"
I'll be sooooo happy when my spring Burpee catalog includes several pages of MJ seeds! Or the local greenhouse has seedlings of various types available every spring!
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I'd like to see any State legalizing the sale of recreational marijuana establish a regulations as follows .... and thus keep the big money out of it. (i.e. alcohol & tobacco corporations; the wal-marts of the world, etc)
The rules should be simple & as follows:
- State grow licenses issued to sole proprietors only .. and only after criminal history check & passage of online training course concerning the laws/regulations.
- May grow/sell no more than 100 pounds per year. Must track all sales & plants grown.
- Must collect State/local sales tax just as on anything else sold. No excessive "sin taxes" that encourage the formation of black-markets.
- May sell raw product only. No homemade oils, brownies, etc
- No sales to anyone under 21.
- Grow facilities subject to administrative inspection at any time without warrant.
- Administrative sanction for violation of the rules (in addition to any applicable criminal penalties for tax or underage violations) would be lifetime loss of grow license.
What a boon for local economies, lower/middle income households, and local farmers if regular folks could boost their income with a sideline grow business & sell to their friends/neighbors or at roadside produce stands.
The whole point of my idea here is that much of that money would then go to local economies!
(A separate scheme could perhaps be established for oils & edibles to ensure food safety standards are met ... and perhaps allowing some corporate entities to be in that business.)
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04-30-2015, 07:44 AM
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#165
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
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I've always thought that drug testing, except in public safety situations, is overly intrusive...
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Not to mention demeaning.
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04-30-2015, 07:55 AM
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#166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyS
Not to mention demeaning.
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Never every took one. If they need my urine to tell I'm high, they have the problem. Wouldn't want to work in that environment.
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04-30-2015, 08:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beststash
Decriminalize not legalize would be much better for us Southern states. Simple is always much better in Texas.
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I appreciate the libertarians pushing the phrase "re-legalize". I think it puts it in a much more honest perspective.
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04-30-2015, 08:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
Though some plants are hermaphrodites. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Didn't know that! Dang-- that is one species that is built for survival!
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04-30-2015, 08:14 AM
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#169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRG
Never ever took one. If they need my urine to tell I'm high, they have the problem. Wouldn't want to work in that environment.
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In a six month period in 98-99, I was subjected to three drug tests. While laid off, I w*rked part-time at an Office Depot, so was given a pre-employment screening. Then, a j*b as a "contractor" opened at my previous employer, thus drug test #2. A few months later, I was re-hired as a "real" employee, thus drug-test #3...
Pissed and passed!
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04-30-2015, 08:16 AM
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#170
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Originally Posted by AndyS
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As I recall, we were on the verge of decriminalization in the late 70s, but societal sentiment shifted to a more conservative view, and things went the other way...
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04-30-2015, 08:27 AM
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#171
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shhhh!
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04-30-2015, 09:29 AM
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#172
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
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I've always thought that drug testing, except in public safety situations, is overly intrusive...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyS
Not to mention demeaning.
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Originally Posted by MRG
Never every took one. If they need my urine to tell I'm high, they have the problem. Wouldn't want to work in that environment.
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I was a regular MJ user in the 60s and early 70s so it was ironic that I was responsible for implementing drug testing at my Federal agency in the 80s. We tested everyone with a top secret clearance - clearly a high risk bunch. Based on the small likelihood of use in that crew I worried that the 99.5% accuracy of the tests would predict that any positives were false. In the event, none of that group ever did test positive although we did get some positives among our police (closer to guards actually). The whole program was a waste.
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04-30-2015, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
In a six month period in 98-99, I was subjected to three drug tests. While laid off, I w*rked part-time at an Office Depot, so was given a pre-employment screening. Then, a j*b as a "contractor" opened at my previous employer, thus drug test #2. A few months later, I was re-hired as a "real" employee, thus drug-test #3...
Pissed and passed!
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Yeah, there was a 6 year period where I went through 4 background checks and 3 drug tests. Clearly I am a shady character and needed all that in order to be trusted.
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04-30-2015, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donheff
I was a regular MJ user in the 60s and early 70s so it was ironic that I was responsible for implementing drug testing at my Federal agency in the 80s. We tested everyone with a top secret clearance - clearly a high risk bunch. Based on the small likelihood of use in that crew I worried that the 99.5% accuracy of the tests would predict that any positives were false. In the event, none of that group ever did test positive although we did get some positives among our police (closer to guards actually). The whole program was a waste.
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My manager and I were part of the first class that went through Megacorp's drug policy training. The poor HR Director. She announced we were starting testing as a condition of employment. Also managers could ask HR that an employee be tested at the managers request. We refrained from asking is this retroactive, someone else took that hit.
During the lecture on how to spot abusers he and I had a sidebar about how much information was wrong or missing.
She cornered us after class asking about our discussion. We smiled and gave her 6-8 items that were flat out incorrect or missing. She said we paid a lot of money for a consulting firm to teach us about this, and you guys say they're wrong, how do you know?
We both admitted to growing up exposed to stuff in our pre-megacorp life. She never gave us a hard time, or asked for a test. We did have to put together our review of the class material, including all the ways to beat a test. The consultant left them with the impression the tests couldn't be fooled. Ha, a buddy of mine smoked one in the morning and passed clean urine that afternoon.
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07-13-2015, 03:44 PM
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#175
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Slightly off topic (as usual). We had a BIG meeting in late 80's at Megacorp to discuss the coming drug policy. There was to be mandatory testing for those tasked with controlled substance analysis. Everyone else was subject to either random or for-cause testing. The leader of the informational meeting (a young female HR person - let's call her Suzie) "warned" us that we could no longer eat the poppy seed rolls in the cafeteria because it would cause us to fail any drug tests. There was such a hue and cry that she finally promised to check on this policy. It turned out that, yes, it was possible for poppy seeds to cause a false positive, but all positives would be followed up with MassSpec analysis to insure that no one would be fired for eating poppy seeds. From then until "Suzie" was rotated to another j*b or plant she was always referred to as "False Positive Suzie." Several of us were warned to "knock it off", as "female" was then considered an MGM (minority group member.) All such warnings were ignored. The few folks I keep track of at my old Megacorp still recall this debacle - with (now) fond memory. It was a real blow up at the time, however.
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07-13-2015, 04:38 PM
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#176
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt34
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Just thought of something. Why don't these cash-strapped Greeks think of this?
If they put their idle youth who are 50% unemployed to growing weed, imagine how fast they will pay off their debt, then become the most prosperous nation in Europe the world.
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07-14-2015, 04:17 AM
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#177
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gone traveling
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meanwhile...still planning our road trip to Colorado for the MONTH of September....driving crooked roads, camping under the stars....ALWAYS totally legal
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07-14-2015, 09:04 PM
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If it would ease the pain in my lower back I would give it a go. I did smoke it in the late 60's but that has been almost 50 years ago. I liked it then and I am sure I would now. The only problem is I quit smoking 34 years ago so that might be a problem
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07-14-2015, 09:13 PM
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#179
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For pain many use tinctures, no smoking required. Some claim it's a better pain management option than opiods. These are high in CBD and low in THC, you get pain relief without the high. It's the same type of treatment used for epilepsy.
YMMV.
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07-14-2015, 10:17 PM
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#180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W2R
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I have no desire whatsoever to smoke pot, regular cigarettes, drink alcohol, and so on. I enjoy life as it is, and clouding my mind with pot or other drugs would bore me.
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