Marijuana in Retirement

[youbet]

Hopefully in addition to making MJ legal and unregulated for recreational use, they'll also eliminate the very stoooopid regulations on growing your own. We should be allowed to grow and process MJ in our own home/backyards just as I do tomatoes and green beans. And I should be able to give MJ away to friends just as I now dump surplus veggies from the garden on their front porches.


It is sooooo wrong to spend zillions of gov't/taxpayer dollars enforcing ridiculous rules on home gardening! This world needs more folks growing their own food, making their own booze, growing and processing their own MJ (or whatever), not less.


Wouldn't it be wonderful if the big, commercial growers operating (at huge profits) under the radar in California would suddenly find there is no market for their stuff because home gardeners make it freely available like zucchini in August? No guns, no gangsters, no crooked law enforcement payola schemes. Just grandma in the backyard yelling at the youngin's to hurry up "hoeing that row of MJ!"


I'll be sooooo happy when my spring Burpee catalog includes several pages of MJ seeds! Or the local greenhouse has seedlings of various types available every spring!

[brewer12345]

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Originally Posted by youbet Hopefully in addition to making MJ legal and unregulated for recreational use, they'll also eliminate the very stoooopid regulations on growing your own. We should be allowed to grow and process MJ in our own home/backyards just as I do tomatoes and green beans. And I should be able to give MJ away to friends just as I now dump surplus veggies from the garden on their front porches. It is sooooo wrong to spend zillions of gov't/taxpayer dollars enforcing ridiculous rules on home gardening! This world needs more folks growing their own food, making their own booze, growing and processing their own MJ (or whatever), not less. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the big, commercial growers operating (at huge profits) under the radar in California would suddenly find there is no market for their stuff because home gardeners make it freely available like zucchini in August? No guns, no gangsters, no crooked law enforcement payola schemes. Just grandma in the backyard yelling at the youngin's to hurry up "hoeing that row of MJ!" I'll be sooooo happy when my spring Burpee catalog includes several pages of MJ seeds! Or the local greenhouse has seedlings of various types available every spring!

Legal to grow your own in CO, but with lots of stipulations (number of plants, under lock and key, etc.). No clue where you would get seeds.

Heck, why is it legal to make beer and wine, but not whiskey?

And technically, it is illegal to grow poppies.

[harley]

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 Legal to grow your own in CO, but with lots of stipulations (number of plants, under lock and key, etc.). No clue where you would get seeds. Heck, why is it legal to make beer and wine, but not whiskey? And technically, it is illegal to grow poppies.

Legal to grow in DC now too. They recently had a huge seed giveaway that was immensely successful. You can grow up to six plants and gift up to an ounce there now.

You can also order seeds online. We used to get ours from Canada via catalog ads back when I was trying to grow it. (Long time ago, statute of limitations has expired).

If it was legal and you could plant outdoors I think I would grow my own. Growing it indoors was risky and somewhat stinky.

I never have been able to figure out the whiskey thing. We used to make our own brandies. Fun and tasty. Back in college in the mountains of VA I knew a couple of moonshiners. Even drove some product up to customers in the DC area for them on trips home. (Expired SoL on that one too).

[MRG]

Actually little Marijuana is grown from seeds anymore. Most is grown from cuttings from a female mother plant. This assures sex (females produce the majority of THC &CBDs) and a genetic clone with the same growth qualitys as the mother.

Sure if you have no mother you start with seeds (used to be available mail order) then flower, by cutting the light, then disgaurd the males. The females are your set to experiment with. Hopefully you get a high quality high production female. She becomes the new clone able stock.

I read a book in the '70s.

[HFWR]

Though some plants are hermaphrodites. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[MRG]

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Originally Posted by HFWR Though some plants are hermaphrodites. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

They are, many times older females will produce male pistols. They can be pollinated with other female flowers and will produce female only seeds.(IIRC)

[shortstop14]

Would be nice to be able to grow some in the garden, and I expect that will happen here in Washington eventually. But it's going to be hard to beat the variety available at the retail outlets that have sprung. Menu Summary - New Vansterdam is one example.

[harley]

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Originally Posted by shortstop14 Would be nice to be able to grow some in the garden, and I expect that will happen here in Washington eventually. But it's going to be hard to beat the variety available at the retail outlets that have sprung. Menu Summary - New Vansterdam is one example.

Just because I used to like to make my own beer didn't mean I wouldn't pick up a 6 pack of something tasty.

[shortstop14]

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Originally Posted by harley Just because I used to like to make my own beer didn't mean I wouldn't pick up a 6 pack of something tasty.

True enough, and a good point. It still feels different than checking out the local microbreweries - but I suspect that will change in time.

[harley]

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Originally Posted by harley Here's an article from Forbes magazine talking about which states will be next to legalize marijuana. There are currently 6 states with initiatives. According to the article, chances are good that it will be legalized in California (surprised it's taken this long), Nevada, and Maine. Less but still some chance for Ohio, Arizona, and Mass. Also, a recent Quinnipiac University poll shows that three swing states in the upcoming presidential election favor legalizing medical marijuana by huge margins, and legalizing in general has smaller but still majority support. That might change the debate a bit in favor of tolerance. Or even allow a real discussion, which would be a new thing. Combined with the recent Compassionate Access, Research Expansion, and Respect States (CARERS) Act introduced in the Senate and the House to limit federal interference with states that have legalized medical marijuana, I am the most hopeful I've ever been that prohibition will be ended in my lifetime. Retirement keeps getting better and better!

On the other hand, here's an article on what will probably be the last nine states to legalize. In case anyone wants to add this to their retirement home planning.

An interesting quote from the article:

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But just as the end of federal alcohol prohibition in 1933 didn't mean the end of state-level prohibition -- Mississippi didn't end it until 1966, you couldn't drink in a bar in Kansas until 1987, and dry counties remain in a number of states -- ending federal marijuana prohibition isn't going to magically make it legal everywhere.

[Beststash]

Decriminalize not legalize would be much better for us Southern states. Simple is always much better in Texas.

[Samz]

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Originally Posted by Beststash Decriminalize not legalize would be much better for us Southern states. Simple is always much better in Texas.

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[Bikerdude]

Anybody buy weed (I guess they call it 420) in Colorado recently? How much was it?

[MRG]

Depends, $10 -12 gram. Many are using edibles hash, wax and oil. Those I saw were $50-$80 gram.

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[growerVon]

Happy 4-20! What used to be close to a religious holiday in past circles I danced, is just another manic Monday.. ��

[Ticker]

Louisiana is facing a $1.5 billion tax revenue shortfall. You'd think the legislature would look at the Colorado model for a solution. May not fix all of the problems, but I would guess they could generate 150 million in new taxes, especially with the tourist trade.

[donheff]

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Originally Posted by Ticker Louisiana is facing a $1.5 billion tax revenue shortfall. You'd think the legislature would look at the Colorado model for a solution. May not fix all of the problems, but I would guess they could generate 150 million in new taxes, especially with the tourist trade.

New Orleans as the US Amsterdam - that would work.

[Bikerdude]

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Originally Posted by Ticker Louisiana is facing a $1.5 billion tax revenue shortfall. You'd think the legislature would look at the Colorado model for a solution. May not fix all of the problems, but I would guess they could generate 150 million in new taxes, especially with the tourist trade.

Not to mention redirecting law enforcement and the Courts to more meaningful pursuits.

[spectrallight]

OP chiming in here.

Although I have retired from federal service, I still get information from my former workplace union (NTEU). In their April 2015 bulletin, an article entitled "Federal Workers and Marijuana" cites a 1986 (pre-any U.S. State marijuana legalization) Executive Order by Ronald Reagan, to conclude that federal workers in Alaska, Oregon, D.C., Colorado, and Washington can't indulge. Including at home on their own time.

Probably the Union is giving a heads-up that feds who fail mandatory or reasonable suspicion drug tests who live and work in those places, won't get Union defense. Fair enough.

What bugs me about the article is the prissy tone suggesting that a fed who smokes a joint over the weekend in a legal-pot state, violates the "special trust" placed upon him/her as a "servant of the public". As opposed to, say, downing five martinis every night and smoking a pack of cigarettes while consuming pornography.

Another quibble: There is no legal authority cited for the bald assertion that a 1986 Executive Order is not affected in any way by nearly 30 years of change.
Oh well, I suppose it is not my worry. I am retired. It would be quite paranoid to worry about federal retirement benefits being taken away . . . although, stranger things have happened . . .

Related (perhaps): The IRS now has 87,000 employees. Only 650 of those employees are under age 25.

[Walt34]

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Originally Posted by Ticker Louisiana is facing a $1.5 billion tax revenue shortfall. You'd think the legislature would look at the Colorado model for a solution. May not fix all of the problems, but I would guess they could generate 150 million in new taxes, especially with the tourist trade.

Every state has budget issues. You'd think they'd all be looking at the option.

All those used-up coal mines in WV could become year-round grow centers.