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Old 01-15-2010, 10:17 AM   #61
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samclem, thanks for these updates. I don't think these special deals help to convince the public that this bill is "for the common good".

Gallup poll is showing only 37% of the public would tell their reps to vote for the bill, add in the "leaning to" vote for the bill, and it is still a minority (49%).

Healthcare Bill Support Ticks Up; Public Still Divided

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We've discussed the sly bits of budgetary subterfuge that help the Senate bill look more budget neutral, and there's been some question about the real cost after everything is in place. I looks like about $100 billion in additional federal red ink every year. Here's the source of that helpful factoid, a column in the Arizona Republic. The assumptions look fair to me. ...
These are big numbers, so if I break it down correctly - $100B in red ink every year, divided by ~ 300M people in the US, that is an added $333 of added debt each year for each person. At first, I was thinking "cost", but if I have that right it isn't "cost", it's the amount of spending we are not paying for, just adding to the debt.

I'll go back to statements I made months ago - it seems hypocritical to me for people to say "we want health care reform now" if they are not willing to pay for it now (let our kids/grandkids pay tomorrow for the health care we want today).



"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today...." Hey, at least Wimpy was willing to pay for it himself....

Maybe that should be: I'll gladly let your kid pay you Tuesday, for my hamburger today....

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A bill with so many pay offs, can't be good.
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A bill with so many pay offs, can't be good.
Unless you are a payee like us ER's and ER wannabes. Just become a grasshopper and let the ants feed you. It's easier this way.
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I'm definitely working on it. It feels a little slimy, but it's better than being a sucker.
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