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Old 03-16-2009, 01:43 PM   #21
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I agree, there should be a law requiring all companies to offer the same benefits to their employees as states and fed employees.
Why the heck not! Of course, we would have to equalize the salaries as well. It's only fair, right?
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:03 PM   #22
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I could do that. I'd have to lose a little bit more of my hearing first ... but.... 50k - plus benefits. Do they have dental?
Of course.....the only BAD news is that FULL coverage is now $25 a month, it used to be free.......
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:01 PM   #23
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Our school district is looking to hire 3 new kindergarten teachers, only 1 year experience necessary. Starting pay? $50,000 plus benefits. Not bad for a 24 year old teacher......

Again, demographics play a role.
According to this source, your district pays quite a bit better than most.

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Old 03-16-2009, 04:47 PM   #24
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I agree, there should be a law requiring all companies to offer the same benefits to their employees as states and fed employees.
I think the law should be that people take control of their own lives, and plan accordingly. Ok... sorry... I am sure that came accross as snarky... but I really did not intend it that way.

The truth of the matter is this. The salary of a job is determined by how much a person is willing to take that job for, and how skilled does a person need to be in order to get it. Engineers, doctors, lawyers, sports stars, actors, etc, make the salaries they do because there are not many 10% and in many cases less than that (population percentage) can do those jobs.

Believe me... if there was a job out there with a high enough demand... and the pay was not high enough... you can believe the salary and benefits would eventually rise until people filled that need.
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Believe me... if there was a job out there with a high enough demand... and the pay was not high enough... you can believe the salary and benefits would eventually rise until people filled that need.
The difference being that a pension is for a future event. When a state/federal pension can't meet its obligations, which were exaggerated and based on early 1980s T-bond yields, it doesn't fold and go away. It just raises taxes.

Of course, when a corporate pension becomes "overfunded," the company borrows from it. Like Social Security, in many respects.
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The difference being that a pension is for a future event. When a state/federal pension can't meet its obligations, which were exaggerated and based on early 1980s T-bond yields, it doesn't fold and go away. It just raises taxes.

Of course, when a corporate pension becomes "overfunded," the company borrows from it. Like Social Security, in many respects.
And that actually is a good point. Now a law that WOULD be fair, is to say that if a pension is promised as part of your pay, then they need to keep X percentage of it in liquid assets. There are already laws on the book in most states about companies by law having to pay you what was offered. Stopping a company from hiring you for X dollars and then paying you Y dollars, or not paying your your vacation time when you leave the company.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:11 AM   #27
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What about US government employees? Don't you think they are getting way too much benefits also?
Possible, but not the military. I wouldn't take a COLA'd pension with health care at 39 years, if it meant approx 8 to 10 years of 14-16 hour days, 7 days a week grueling work away from the family, and I don't know many that would.
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