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Old 10-26-2017, 06:01 PM   #1
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Firefox 57 aka 'Quantum'

Been trying this out pre-release. Nice speed boost and less memory needed. 11/14/17 it gets released.
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Been trying this out pre-release. Nice speed boost and less memory needed. 11/14/17 it gets released.
You notice that much difference?
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Yes, very noticeable speed increase.
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I sure hope it's a big improvement. I had been a long time Firefox user but about 6 months ago it had gotten so slow I switched over to Chrome. Chrome was a very noticeable improvement.
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Yes, very noticeable speed increase.
Does it handle memory well, like having a dozen windows open with a dozen or so tabs in half of them?

I switched to Chromium years ago, and one of the reasons was they have a system monitor panel that allows you to 'kill' a hung tab w/o having to 'kill' the whole app. But I haven't really used it much (but it does work). So now, I'm more interested in good memory handling. Every few days, I close Chromium and re-open it, and that regains most of the memory. My "Session Buddy" extension helps me get back where I was.

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This new version will make virtually all current add-ons obsolete. You can check your own by seeing if they are labeled "legacy" in your extensions list. Hopefully, new compatible versions are forthcoming.
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Been trying this out pre-release. Nice speed boost and less memory needed. 11/14/17 it gets released.
Does it just feel faster? Sometimes pages on mine load slowly but is it the browser or ... ? How to separate out the factors?
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UPDATE - switched today
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UPDATE - switched today

I seemed to recall a thread on this...

So I switched today after years of using Chromium. Went pretty smoothly, I was able to find extensions for what I commonly use pretty quickly, probably need to add a few less common ones as time goes on.

So far, it seems to use a lot less memory, but we will see after a few days of my intense browsing (I typically have a dozen or so windows open with several (sometimes dozens) of tabs in some of the windows. Not typical for many/most, but I keep them open for many different interests or current investigations/research/fun that I am doing, and I just orefer to keep them open until I finish (out of sight out of mind).

So far so good. Hard to tell about speed, seems snappy, but I was fine with Chromium until I'd run out of memory, then things slow to a crawl (swapping in/out to the disk).

My current add-ons are Goo.gl url (URL shortner); Site Searcher (search within a site), and the uBlock Origin in place of AdBlock, because it came up and I had heard it was good.

Will probably add Camelizer (compare Amazon pricing), I'll look for some 'readability' helpers (just recently installed "High Contrast" on Chromium - one click turns those terrible gray-text-on-gray sites to black on white, as the gods intended), may need to see if I can link to Google Calendar...

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I actually like the "recommended by pocket" push thumbnail suggestions. Found some interesting reading.

As for tabs and memory. Ha ha. At w*rk, I realized I had over 30 tabs open. You know, different bug reports, research to fix the bugs, source code pointers for the bugs... It adds up. I didn't even realize it and saw no degradation at all. It is a beefy machine, but still, I don't ever recall opening that many tabs with no issues.

I'd say it is an improvement.
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I sure hope it's a big improvement. I had been a long time Firefox user but about 6 months ago it had gotten so slow I switched over to Chrome. Chrome was a very noticeable improvement.
I gave Firefox another try after installing this update and it is a big improvement, running good so far.
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Does it just feel faster? Sometimes pages on mine load slowly but is it the browser or ... ? How to separate out the factors?
I had several things going on at the same time when making the switch.
a) Update to Firefox 57, b) switching from other ad blocker to uBlock Origin under 57, c) changed hard drive to a SSHD drive and d) switched antivirus programs.

For my system, the biggest speed boost came from switching antivirus programs. I had been using Panda antivirus and that was choking my system.

Overall, I say Firefox 57 is faster than before, but not blazing like advertised. Or perhaps my computer isn't the most current so don't see a blazing change.
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After a day, my (CPU!) memory is still lower than what I recall it ever being after a while running Chromium/Chrome. Continues to feel snappy, but not really noticeable faster/slower.

Only thing that seems broken, and I have not found a fix for in Linux/Ubuntu, is horizontal scrolling. Normally, the scroll wheel will scroll vertically, and if you hold the shift key, it will scroll horizontally (assuming the content is wider than the window, making the scroll bar pop up).

Another minor thing is, the text entry box like this, in Chrome/ium, had a corner grab thingie to expand the height & width. Now I need to go up to those arrow things in the upper right to enlarge/shrink the box vertically. Not a big deal, but I just got so used to doing it that way.

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All in all I am a happy Firefox user nowadays.
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I hated it - it was unbelievably slow. I uninstalled it and installed Firefox ESR. This was on my Windows 10 laptop. Funny, Quantum seems to run OK on my two Windows 7 computers (a laptop and a desktop), which have less memory than my Windows 10 laptop.
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... I uninstalled it and installed Firefox ESR. ...
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Tab handling in Quantum is brain dead. Tab Mix Plus add-on no longer works. A little extra speed is nice but not at the expense of usability.
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I hated it - it was unbelievably slow. I uninstalled it and installed Firefox ESR. This was on my Windows 10 laptop. Funny, Quantum seems to run OK on my two Windows 7 computers (a laptop and a desktop), which have less memory than my Windows 10 laptop.

Should have mentioned on my post that I'm on Win 7. Forgot that some braver folks than me are on Win 10.
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OK, this add on works for "SHIFT" horizontal scroll:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...croll/?src=api

Shift + Scroll (Horizontal Scrolling)Scroll horizontally using 'Shift + Scroll'.



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Tab handling in Quantum is brain dead. Tab Mix Plus add-on no longer works. A little extra speed is nice but not at the expense of usability.
What do you want tabs to do that they don't? I use LOTS of tabs/windows, I did tweak some things in prefs, it depends what you want.

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