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Puppy Belly 01-21-2008 06:50 PM

Vanguard Fund Price Calculation
 
Can someone explain how a mutual fund NAV is calculated when a fund is bought?

Real question is if I place an order at 10AM or 2AM tomorrow, will my buy in price differ or is it calculated at days end?

I may buy the VTI index and need some guidance on that issue.

REWahoo 01-21-2008 06:53 PM

Fund prices are calculated at days end on the day purchased.

Puppy Belly 01-21-2008 07:14 PM

REW,
thanks. That what I just told a friend but wanted to confirm. But that seems very strange cause the buyer and seller are basically blind to what they are receiving.

So if I wanted VGTSX, place and order early, it might end up the day being a bargain or a bust.

But if I wait till 3PM, I'll have a better idea of what I might get.

Strange.

But again, I appreciate that info.



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Originally Posted by REWahoo (Post 604230)
Fund prices are calculated at days end on the day purchased.


REWahoo 01-21-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puppy Belly (Post 604244)
So if I wanted VGTSX, place and order early, it might end up the day being a bargain or a bust.

But if I wait till 3PM, I'll have a better idea of what I might get.

Exactly.

cute fuzzy bunny 01-21-2008 07:25 PM

Some fund families have different cut off times for funds, some are a bit earlier. Check with the funds policies and whoever you're trading through.

This is what a lot of the fund families got in trouble over a few years ago. Some were allowing 'special' customers to see the >4pm closing price and then decide if they wanted a buy/sell order allegedly made earlier in the day to post as though it had been made earlier...

Animorph 01-21-2008 07:48 PM

VTI is an ETF. The price you pay for that is just like a normal stock price, and you own the shares immediately any time of the trading day. It may be higher or lower than the NAV, which is still available once a day. Different from a normal fund, and could be riskier with the sparsely traded ETF's.

Dan

Puppy Belly 01-21-2008 07:56 PM

CFB, and REW,
thanks for the info and the candor.

I seem to recall some financial author had recently written a book that took Mutual Funds to task.

But I blew it off as "yeah, right". Maybe I should find a copy for the wife. I really need some reasoning to get her energized to be watchful.

Hope the market goes into neutal/holding.

I hope trading gets suspended. Seems this holiday puts the US at risk.

Hey, what the hey, if funds can after price. Wall street should take a page and say, hey, all prices are frozen till we decide to trade again. Nice.

Again, thanks.


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