Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All

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NY Times article - Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/business/16leonhardt.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Excerpts from the article

This contrast became the most famous example of a theory known as the Easterlin paradox. In 1974, Richard Easterlin, then an economist at the University of Pennsylvania, published a study in which he argued that economic growth didn’t necessarily lead to more satisfaction.

People in poor countries, not surprisingly, did become happier once they could afford basic necessities. But beyond that, further gains simply seemed to reset the bar. To put it in today’s terms, owning an iPod doesn’t make you happier, because you then want an iPod Touch. Relative income — how much you make compared with others around you — mattered far more than absolute income, Mr. Easterlin wrote.

The paradox quickly became a social science classic, cited in academic journals and the popular media. It tapped into a near-spiritual human instinct to believe that money can’t buy happiness. As a 2006 headline in The Financial Times said, “The Hippies Were Right All Along About Happiness.”

\Last week, at the [URL="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/b/brookings_institution/index.html?inline=nyt-org"]Brookings Institution[/URL] in Washington, two young economists — from the University of Pennsylvania, as it happens — presented a rebuttal of the paradox. Their paper has quickly captured the attention of top economists around the world. It has also led to a spirited response from Mr. Easterlin.

In the paper, Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers argue that money indeed tends to bring happiness, even if it doesn’t guarantee it. They point out that in the 34 years since Mr. Easterlin published his paper, an explosion of public opinion surveys has allowed for a better look at the question. “The central message,” Ms. Stevenson said, “is that income does matter.”

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Interesting article on how people apparently measure happiness.

Has the ac·cu·mu·la·tion of money, houses, cars and other material things made you happier? Or does the ac·cu·mu·la·tion of these things/items serve to give us peace of mind?

GOD BLESS US ALL:angel:
 
NY Times article - Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All

Has the ac·cu·mu·la·tion of money, houses, cars and other material things made you happier? Or does the ac·cu·mu·la·tion of these things/items serve to give us peace of mind?
:angel:
I would say the accumulation of things has been an overall negative for me. They get in the way, as much as I enjoy using them.

But the accumulation of money is an altogether different issue. That is all good I think. Better medical care, better safer car, access to more social life, less financial worry, more feeling of adequacy as a person, better self esteem.

It's not the stuff in my apartment that I want, it's the stuff in my brokerage accounts!

ha
 
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For me happiness is having religion, my family, health, community, ability to serve, friends, and being content (peace of mind) with what I have been blessed with. :angel:

Being able to keep up with Mrs. Wags (blessed with a young wife)

I almost forgot having access to youtube.:duh:

GOD BLESS US ALL
 
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Wags, you are a hoot. Don't forget to mention your (I assume) gov't. pension 'n' health insurance, now, hear? ;) :)
Makes it easier to not worry about that pesky ac·cu·mu·la·tion of money!!
 
I once heard a wise man say the best things in life are free, and then professed that although this may be the case, he would rather donate the best things to any creature he happened past, such as the birds or the bees. He told me he would forsake these things for money. A whole lotta money. This man was so wise that television shows, radios, and at least one movie starring Ted Danson, replayed his message for decades afterward.

Now, who're you going to believe, some guy who teaches at college and probably hangs out with that other guy who thinks we should work until we're in our 70's, or this wise, wise man who knows the true happiness of money?
 
I once head the "old saying:"

Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you the kind of misery you can live with.
 
Money doesn't buy me happiness, but I do find it useful in keeping a lot of unhappiness away from my life. I've seen both sides of the wealth picture and while I am still grateful for the government cheese that filled my stomach years ago, I am just as grateful that my kids have never known that experience.

Money, and the stuff it buys, are just tools to be used to prevent want, dire straits, worry, etc. It all keeps a lot of bad things from screwing up my chances at finding happiness, and it buys me time and opportunities to go look for happiness and fulfillment in new places and experiences.

OT: And it doesn't buy love. Not real love anyway. Although, looking at Mademoiselle Melissa Theuriau, I could be tempted to try to negotiate something.

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Thanks for the You Tube link Wags. I don't speak French, but I am sure she was saying something like "Ah, Leonidas, you are ze one for me!"
 
Money gives me peace of mind. Period.
I have no interest in the "old days" of tossing and turning at night--and being a nervous wreck in the day--because I was worried so about surviving.
And maybe I am the only one here who thinks this, but that video was hysterical to me. Whew....just shaking my head and walking away....
 
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From a cartoon I saw:

"Money can't buy love?"
'Nope.'

"Money can't buy friends?"
'Nope.'

"Money can't buy happiness?"
'Nope.'

"What can it buy?"
'Miscellaneous.'
 
Money may not be able to buy happiness, but it can certainly keep a lot of unhappiness at bay.

That being said, I can't really say that my happiness has gone up as my salary has. I think I'm pretty much the same person I was 5 years ago... but with a big screen tv and an IRA ;)
 
I've always heard it something like this:

Having money can't solve all of your problems,
but if you do have money, then "lack of money" is one less problem you will have.
 
I derive happiness from nose to the grindstone research of a potential purchase, comparing prices, getting a good deal, and then using that item knowing that it's either the best available or the one that does the best job of covering my features wish list. In a 'round about way, money does buy happiness for me.
 
Wags, you are a hoot. Don't forget to mention your (I assume) gov't. pension 'n' health insurance, now, hear? ;) :)
Makes it easier to not worry about that pesky ac·cu·mu·la·tion of money!!

Ladelfina, thank you for calling me a hoot. :angel: Come to think about it I just might come from a long line of HOOTS.

With that being said I think I would rather be a hoot then a member of the "Legion of Decency". At least as a hoot I can "hoot and holler".:D

Do you know of any other hoots that a poor old devil like me might be able to hoot and holler with?

Yes, I forgot to mention the old government pension and the health insurance.

GOD BLESS US ALL:angel:
 
I always figure there are relatively few problems that can't be solved by the application of a sufficient amount of money. If I can avoid those stresses in my life, I'd take my chances on figuring out my own happiness.
 
I always figure there are relatively few problems that can't be solved by the application of a sufficient amount of money. If I can avoid those stresses in my life, I'd take my chances on figuring out my own happiness.
It's true, when something hugely stressful comes up, throwing money at it does seem to make it go away.

Too much money can cause stress of its own, too. There's stress in learning to properly and effectively handle large quantities of money, in differentiating between friends and golddiggers, in shifting relationships, and more. I don't have that kind of money, but have seen others through this sort of thing and it isn't quite what one would imagine. I suppose that there are ways to throw money at that type of stress, too, maybe with a financial advisor, lawyer, CPA, counselor, and more.
 
CBS News - Happiest Americans are the oldest
New research also debunks the stereotype of the lonely senior

Happiest Americans are the oldest - Aging - MSNBC.com

Excerpts from the article

That's according to eye-opening research that found the happiest Americans are the oldest, and older adults are more socially active than the stereotype of the lonely senior suggests.

The two go hand-in-hand — being social can help keep away the blues.

The good news is that with age comes happiness," said study author Yang Yang, a University of Chicago sociologist. "Life gets better in one's perception as one ages."

Learning to be content
A certain amount of distress in old age is inevitable, including aches, pains and deaths of loved ones and friends. But older people generally have learned to be more content with what they have than younger adults, Yang said.

This is partly because older people have learned to lower their expectations and accept their achievements, said Duke University aging expert Linda George. An older person may realize "it's fine that I was a schoolteacher and not a Nobel prize winner."

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It appears that the key to happiness for some is being CONTENT.

GOD BLESS US ALL:angel:
 
I think that having money in the bank definitely contributes to my happiness. But many other factors also contribute to my happiness... A happy marriage, good health, supportive family and friends... Money is just one of them and having money is not IMO an absolute indicator of happiness.


As far as Ms. Melissa Theuriau goes, she is the anchor on the TV channel I watch (online) to get my European news. So not only can I enjoy watching her, but I can also understand what she says (sorry Leonidas...). Plus when my wife asks what I'm doing, I can always say "I'm watching the news!" and be totally truthful about it :D... My wife knows I have crushes on a few French TV anchors...
 
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I think that having money in the bank definitely contributes to my happiness. But many other factors also contribute to my happiness... A happy marriage, good health, supportive family and friends... Money is just one of them and having money is not IMO an absolute indicator of happiness.


As far as Ms. Melissa Theuriau goes, she is the anchor on the TV channel I watch (online) to get my European news. So not only can I enjoy watching her, but I can also understand what she says (sorry Leonidas...). Plus when my wife asks what I'm doing, I can always say "I'm watching the news!" and be totally truthful about it :D... My wife knows I have crushes on a few French TV anchors...

Firedreamer, you are one LUCKY devil with getting to watch Ms. Melissa Theauriau. She is one FINE LADY. That's the wolf in me speaking.

YouTube - Will To Power - Baby I LoveYour Way / Freebird Medley

As for the rest of us poor devils in the U.S.A. we are stuck with Katie, Wolf, Dobbs and O'Reilly.
 

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